Reefinatl. Don't tell anyone about the rugf or too many tanks may last forever.
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I might go for it on the 6 or 8 foot 180-240g future build in a year or so after I get this 90 cruising again.Reefinatl. Don't tell anyone about the rugf or too many tanks may last forever.
I just picked up a used 200 gallon system. I am going to make it a PaulB style fish only tank.I might go for it on the 6 or 8 foot 180-240g future build in a year or so after I get this 90 cruising again.
I run close to the same setup as Paul. 2 years in and smooth sailing.I just picked up a used 200 gallon system. I am going to make it a PaulB style fish only tank.
The first male fish will be named Paul. And the first female fish will be his B.
I use itPaul, I recently got into the hobby again after a break. I was so happy to see you are still around. I was active on 'central back in 06-12 era and used to follow a lot of your more hands off approach. It worked great for me, had a nice easy LPS tank that wasn't TOTM material but pests were in check, stable, and good growth. I was very close to doing a R-UGF this time around. It seems like such a no brainer approach but nobody does it, and I chickened out this go around myself.
Oh, and put a bottle in it is comedy gold anytime you bring it up.
Don't worry, advertisers for all the chemicals will shut it down.Lets not get crazy now.
I'll apologize for the post in advance if it makes you upset.
My question is why do I so often see extreme methods to fix things posted?
For example, someone could post a problem of having dinos, and without initial questions I see people telling them to cut their lights for a week and start dosing with peroxide, this has serious on the aquarium ecosystem...
Or a one fish in a display with ich and someone asks for help, and I see people actually suggesting to remove all the animals, potentially kill them with copper and then leave the tank empty for 86 days... this is incredibly extreme and chances are you'll kill more fish than if you just kept the tank healthy.
OR aiptasia, and people saying that the tank needs to be shut down and they need to be injected with peroxide, instead of suggesting a 100% viable natural method. Aiptasia isn't even a big deal... it can be controlled.. and eliminated.
Or worse... BOILING The rocks, whether they are boiled the right away or by literally boiling them... neither of these are necessary.
ALL of the above can be solved naturally with ease... it just requires patience. Some people get advice to add things and do things to their tank that makes it impossible to get ahead and have a successful tank.
I am shocked by some of the things I see by "experienced members"
Those of you suggesting it, would you remove all the animals from your home and have it bombed on the first sight of a cockroach?
Cause that seems similar to what you tell people to do with some very miniscule issues!
It is only frustrating because sometimes people over complicate this hobby for newcomers, scaring them into thinking they have something horrible that is really very normal.
I am truly sorry you feel that way. We #MODS and #reefsquad try to do our best to help out as many new...and veteran...reefers as best as we can. We are reefing hobbyist...with daily jobs...that come home to help out other reefing hobbyist with issues. DO we have all the answers, NO, but do we try, YES.You are so right, so much bad information, especially from people considered, reef2reef mods because they did what?
Sorry for firing shots, but misinformation ruins the hobby for newcomers.
No worries mate. You guys are just here trying to help. I appreciate it.I am truly sorry you feel that way. We #MODS and #reefsquad try to do our best to help out as many new...and veteran...reefers as best as we can. We are reefing hobbyist...with daily jobs...that come home to help out other reefing hobbyist with issues. DO we have all the answers, NO, but do we try, YES.
this is why internet posters should use the currency of work threads for what they speak about
that's different than 1 reef's perspective.
500 reefs on file doing something gives a legit viewpoint window.
its hard to say a given option is bad if there is fifty pages of work on file.
for example, per these threads, is peroxide bad:
Dinoflagellates my experience......h2o2 reefing tool!!!!!
aaaaaaarrrrrrr just wanted to share my recent battle and how i won!!!!!!!!! "i wish i took pics but i didn't..:(" so about 3 weeks ago my tank broke out pretty bad i mean bad!!!!!! my coast to coast overflow would get plugged and almost overflow my tank..... so i did my research and found...www.reef2reef.com
now the OP can post their link to an equally-working nicer dinos cure and we will have two links to peruse, not just someone's advice.
work threads are how we make proofs in the ideal reef marketplace of claims. patterning speaks for itself.
I'm with the OP in the sense you describe of 'self balancing and patient' but what you say here does have significant merit. It's a forum and all should have their ability to provide advice from experience. It's helpful often.if the OP feels more self-balancing and patient ways are better than forceful means (our ways have downsides too)
then work threads can be made to build log rolls.
simply pop into help threads, sell em on the method, collect the fixes. memorize the fixes so when you get asked about it later/have/can link
direct message folks who have posted help threads, and carve off to the side someone willing to run your method and feedback. you can make logs and rolls of proof off that.
Respectfully I must disagree. Quantity of likes does not equate to quality of posts. Maybe as a starting point, but it’s important to do your own digging as well, if you want to be certain the advice given is in fact credible.Reading through this thread more there are a few things I'd like to add.
1. The biggest ultimate issue is that the OP's asking for "advice" have arrived at problems they themselves have created by not educating themselves prior to jumping in.
I myself when I first started reefing made tons of mistakes that unfortunately I traversed on my own for the most part. I wasn't on any forums mainly because I didn't know they existed.
This may be undemocratic and not "PC" but to me, if you decide to jump out of an airplane, without having studied up first about skydiving and proper parachute packing/checking and procedure. When you splat on the ground. Good riddance.
The more empathetic side of me of course wants to try to steer everyone with problems in the right direction. But Darwin's Theory and survival of the fittest is a natural cycle.
If certain hobbyist just can't take it upon themselves to properly educate themselves, and instead jump at the first extreme advice they're given. They'll eventually fail until they pick themselves up by their own boot straps and really put their noses to the books and articles to get the TRUTH about it all.
If they don't, they won't have long term happiness and success, and it'll be 1 less reefer in the hobby. Which again, is that many less fish and coral killed needlessly due to their inability or rather unwillingness to do a proper study.
2. We need to give the people who give good advice more credit. Give them more likes and more reactions. As a newb starting in the hobby, if you see someone with 2,000 posts and 2,000 likes giving advice.
And another with 3,000 posts and 10,000 likes giving advice, you're probably more likely to go with the guy who seems to give better advice. It's only natural as well.
By coming together as a community and supporting the one's who lead down a path of truth, and (not shunning) but not giving as much recognition to those recommending extremes. We ourselves on this forum can combat it. Anytime you're in a thread and you see someone you know or someone who often gives good advice, just give them a quick like.
1 click is all it takes .
That's my 2 cents.