marinereef
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My understanding is the front glass overhanging doesn't matter much, if at all. The major factor is the water pressure pushing out on the front glass which is not effected by the front glass being supported by the stand or not.
Are my tanks seams beginning to fail?
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buruskeee
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No, the waterbox doors aren’t flush with the front panel. The front panel is held by the stand and then the doors stick out a bit. Red Sea is the only tank I’m aware of that leaves the front panel literally hanging.
Unfortunately the overflow on the G2 is still complete garbage. I’m convinced it’s not the crappy diaphragm valve thing they made, but just a very poor overflow/drain design.
gbroadbridge
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Well, Red Sea offer that in Australia because it is required under the Australian Consumer Law.
I'm sure that they are not particularly happy about it though.
Not just Red Sea, any product sold by any Vendor sold in Australia is covered by that Federal Law, and if it fails within the normal life of the product it must be replaced or refunded - whichever the consumer wishes.
buruskeee
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The front glass pulling both down, and away places more stress on the seams. Especially on bigger tanks, that glass panel can weigh over 100lbs alone going downwards, combined with pressure pushing it outwards. Just a very poor design.
buruskeee
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So if a warranty on a Kia in Australia is 10 years, if it breaks within 10 years, the buyer can get a full refund on the car? Thats a crazy law if it’s indeed how it works.
Solo McReefer
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Did it pop?
Jimbo327
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Simple physics. Just imagine hold a piece of front glass in your hands without any support. That's the force being applied to the seams of holding that piece of glass without bottom support. It might not seem like much at first, but after awhile, your arms will get tired.
So there is downward force from the glass weight and the outward force of the water/flow. I rather eliminate the downward force by supporting the glass. Add to that any imperfection of the stand, and you got even more force on the bottom glass to break that seam loose. It's a combination of fatigue and creep force failure.
Water box has changed their stands more than once but they ran the same or maybe larger? Overhang for quite some time.
Their current stand actually has wobble issues, ha.
Here is a stolen pic of what I mean
I wouldn't do that. Good opportunity to replace the sand and leave 2 years worth of gunk behind.
More work than it’s worth. Takes sooo long to rinse it.
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Do you really want another Red Sea tank? I'd personally find one from a different manufacturer so this doesn't happen again. Glad to hear that your livestock is safe.
I would purchase new sand.
I would purchase new sand.
Pre rinsing allows total command over all reef tanks
These are skip cycle takedown reefs as well
To put back any sand, new old or a combo, we pre rinsed it.
www.reef2reef.com
You can do whatever you want to do with sand if you do specifically that above
Transfer no cloudy materials at all into your display, that's the core rule
Not even if it claims to clear in 48 hours: transfer none. All items that may cloud, get pre rinsed. It's the secret to controlling cycling in any reef tank per above.
If you want to add sand, add verified zero cloud sand. That's how we skip cycled all those reef tank surgeries.
Where the sand came from: new v old didn't factor for us. We worked with all types of sand anyone showed up with there.
We all pre rinsed, that's the trick.
These are skip cycle takedown reefs as well
To put back any sand, new old or a combo, we pre rinsed it.
Official Sand Rinse and Tank Transfer thread
If you are reading this thread to cure a tank invasion from a link I sent you, we do not need to identify your type of invasion here we do not need you to test anything at anytime regarding nitrate, phosphate etc Above all, we do not need to see a microscope slide picture of your invasion at...
www.reef2reef.com
You can do whatever you want to do with sand if you do specifically that above
Transfer no cloudy materials at all into your display, that's the core rule
Not even if it claims to clear in 48 hours: transfer none. All items that may cloud, get pre rinsed. It's the secret to controlling cycling in any reef tank per above.
If you want to add sand, add verified zero cloud sand. That's how we skip cycled all those reef tank surgeries.
Where the sand came from: new v old didn't factor for us. We worked with all types of sand anyone showed up with there.
We all pre rinsed, that's the trick.
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buruskeee
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Hmm. Didn’t realize they vary version to version.Water box has changed their stands more than once but they ran the same or maybe larger? Overhang for quite some time.
Their current stand actually has wobble issues, ha.
Here is a stolen pic of what I mean
Waterbox has always had decent stands IMO.
I’d only go metal if I had to pick with recent designs.
If you keep this exact pace of reef tank CPR through water changes, no food allowed to compile...physicality of water exchange matching temp and salinity you will guide this reef through multiple skip cycle transfers all in one thread, I can't say I know of another where someone does this first go Steven. Incredibly fun watching you command the reef to stabilize in any container.
If anything clouds, change water
It's the cpr action 100% and you've left clean clear breathing waters for the hospital tank by not hammering it full of Prime, Dr Tim's, six bottles of fritz since the nitrite spiked)
that's what people who doubt cycles do.
I simply cannot thank you enough for going the testless method. To solely evaluate this reef, the skip cycle and handling off results completely saves us pages and pages and pages of debate on what to do, it's just shocking how results you are posting govern human behavior here that could easily otherwise be in staunch disagreement
(In several other test- based cycle threads, evaluators deeply disagreed on safety status based on posted ammonia levels, so the thread was hard to manage behaviorally)
Nobody can look at your pics and not say well done man
right on call
with no prep
you did it when minutes counted. That's sick man. It's like nailing a reef mctwist in a half pipe skate run.
If anything clouds, change water
It's the cpr action 100% and you've left clean clear breathing waters for the hospital tank by not hammering it full of Prime, Dr Tim's, six bottles of fritz since the nitrite spiked)
that's what people who doubt cycles do.
I simply cannot thank you enough for going the testless method. To solely evaluate this reef, the skip cycle and handling off results completely saves us pages and pages and pages of debate on what to do, it's just shocking how results you are posting govern human behavior here that could easily otherwise be in staunch disagreement
(In several other test- based cycle threads, evaluators deeply disagreed on safety status based on posted ammonia levels, so the thread was hard to manage behaviorally)
Nobody can look at your pics and not say well done man
right on call
with no prep
you did it when minutes counted. That's sick man. It's like nailing a reef mctwist in a half pipe skate run.
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