Tang police don't raid me, I just want to ask a question.

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Well when the OP is already making tang gang comments in the first post, perhaps those that think this is a bad idea are reluctant to respond. As Gtinnel pointed out, not all 6' tanks are the same. 15" width 17" depth or vice versa is small.
I was thinking the same thing. Really since we in the hobby started mocking people calling for larger tank size with tangs as “tang police” with memes and comments it’s pretty much silenced people that just care about the fish welfare.

I have not had the fish in question so I can’t give advise, but it’s just been interesting to see the progression of the term and comments around “tang police” especially as in other forums for large freshwater fish many US hobbiest are severally critical of other cultures acceptance of putting large fish in smaller tanks. A bit of the opposite has occurred with the salt side. Just interesting to watch comments on the thread and how people, with some exceptions, even if they think larger tanks are needed try and avoid being in the “tang police”
 

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I was thinking the same thing. Really since we in the hobby started mocking people calling for larger tank size with tangs as “tang police” with memes and comments it’s pretty much silenced people that just care about the fish welfare.

I have not had the fish in question so I can’t give advise, but it’s just been interesting to see the progression of the term and comments around “tang police” especially as in other forums for large freshwater fish many US hobbiest are severally critical of other cultures acceptance of putting large fish in smaller tanks. A bit of the opposite has occurred with the salt side. Just interesting to watch comments on the thread and how people, with some exceptions, even if they think larger tanks are needed try and avoid being in the “tang police”
True tru, Especially with the stereotype that they are mean and such
 

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Isnt that just stunting?
In some fisheries biology class I remember hearing about a fish that was fed a very low calorie diet, so low that the fish assimilated all the energy and didn't defecate at all. We also were taught that fish growth was/is indeterminate, meaning (in theory) if you fed them all the food they could eat they would continue to grow bigger forever, in theory.
Also you can put me down for yesn't, as others have said. Okay as juvenile but not adults. And only if you have a solid plan/place to rehome them when the eventually get too big.
We have a chinchilla. I never planned to have one but my eldest son new a minor age young woman who had bought one and was begging her mom, then her grand parents to allow her to keep the animal at their house. I was so happy that my son brought the chinchilla and cage home to our house. Not becasue I wanted to keep a chinchilla but because I didn't want my son to bring home this young lady and move in to our house with their grandchild.

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, having a solid plan/place to rehome them isn't a bad idea for practical reasons but I would be much happier with folks if they upgraded to keep their fish at their home for as long as they both shall live. Our chinchilla took a long time to recover from whatever happend to him in his previous passed around life. Did someone at the pet store drop him repeatedly, toss him like a football, or? Poor thing shivers now, doesn't want to be picked up most of the time and will run away if I try and pick him up. He's ok once I'm holding him but he is terrified, in general, to be held by anyone.

We treat him like a family member, he has a pen (no stupid cage really worked for the rock hopper) and he gets treats, wake up time for breakfast and bed time storytime (no, we don't read, just hang out) so the social animal has some semblance of a normal social life as a bachelor living alone with us.

Buying fish, it is amazing to me that most people do not seem to consider that many fishes can live many more years than one or two before they are old and die in the wild. I don't think they need to eat as much as most people feed them to live, but I also think that feeding them so lightly that they never have a bowel movement is a cool science project but its a cruel life to deny our fish a pleasurable dump at least a couple of times a week?

Our fish come to the glass and beg for food all day, they enjoy feeding time. I collect wild sea food items that I chop up for them along with the available frozen items I get at the lfs. When I bbq salmon they get some cool flakes of muscle to enjoy along with us. While it may be a good idea to either upgrade a tank for growing fish, I don't think the options of donating larger fish to another home with a bigger swimming volumn is a good solution because these fishes have some attachment to the people feeding them every day for many years before they outgrow the tank.

I vote don't buy any pet unless you plan to keep it and someday bury it yourself. Same consideration for tank sizes, would you be happy as a fish stuck in the tiny tank you keep at home? That latter question is hard to answer but it can direct one's decisions on what to feed, how often, water change schedule, etc. Keeping fish is a responsibility, be kind to yours.
 
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In some fisheries biology class I remember hearing about a fish that was fed a very low calorie diet, so low that the fish assimilated all the energy and didn't defecate at all. We also were taught that fish growth was/is indeterminate, meaning (in theory) if you fed them all the food they could eat they would continue to grow bigger forever, in theory.

We have a chinchilla. I never planned to have one but my eldest son new a minor age young woman who had bought one and was begging her mom, then her grand parents to allow her to keep the animal at their house. I was so happy that my son brought the chinchilla and cage home to our house. Not becasue I wanted to keep a chinchilla but because I didn't want my son to bring home this young lady and move in to our house with their grandchild.

SO
, having a solid plan/place to rehome them isn't a bad idea for practical reasons but I would be much happier with folks if they upgraded to keep their fish at their home for as long as they both shall live. Our chinchilla took a long time to recover from whatever happend to him in his previous passed around life. Did someone at the pet store drop him repeatedly, toss him like a football, or? Poor thing shivers now, doesn't want to be picked up most of the time and will run away if I try and pick him up. He's ok once I'm holding him but he is terrified, in general, to be held by anyone.

We treat him like a family member, he has a pen (no stupid cage really worked for the rock hopper) and he gets treats, wake up time for breakfast and bed time storytime (no, we don't read, just hang out) so the social animal has some semblance of a normal social life as a bachelor living alone with us.

Buying fish, it is amazing to me that most people do not seem to consider that many fishes can live many more years than one or two before they are old and die in the wild. I don't think they need to eat as much as most people feed them to live, but I also think that feeding them so lightly that they never have a bowel movement is a cool science project but its a cruel life to deny our fish a pleasurable dump at least a couple of times a week?

Our fish come to the glass and beg for food all day, they enjoy feeding time. I collect wild sea food items that I chop up for them along with the available frozen items I get at the lfs. When I bbq salmon they get some cool flakes of muscle to enjoy along with us. While it may be a good idea to either upgrade a tank for growing fish, I don't think the options of donating larger fish to another home with a bigger swimming volumn is a good solution because these fishes have some attachment to the people feeding them every day for many years before they outgrow the tank.

I vote don't buy any pet unless you plan to keep it and someday bury it yourself. Same consideration for tank sizes, would you be happy as a fish stuck in the tiny tank you keep at home? That latter question is hard to answer but it can direct one's decisions on what to feed, how often, water change schedule, etc. Keeping fish is a responsibility, be kind to yours.
Okay... Tally I guess
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