You can't have everything. Where would you put it?

[Lost in the Sauce]

I have mostly thickly mucous fish but I hear you. Is there a solution for copepod eaters?

Yes. Most pod eaters will eat frozen cyclopods too..

I've successfully gotten two mandarins who Only ate t pods through 30 days of copper by making an in take refugium for the pods to breed and find safety.

I did this by stuffing my acrylic fish trap with screen top netting densely.i seeded pods into it from bottles. I have a Thread about it way back.

I had pods for the Mandy and 3 wrasse for 80 days.

Heavy, varied, and nutritional feeding, low stress environments, oversized UV are all helpful for ick maintenance.

Just be ready to treat, if needed.

 

[i cant think]

Ich Containment is easier than Ich Eradication IME. Generally, a healthy thriving fish will be able to fight it off but a stressed, decaying fish will be too weak to fight it off.

 

[i cant think]

I'm very jealous. I tried 3 naoko And all three of them had neurology issues and quickly expired.

My first Naoko did decide to have what I thought was a spinal injury but now think it was actually UNWD.

 

[Slocke]

I'm very jealous. I tried 3 naoko And all three of them had neurology issues and quickly expired.

I've had similar issues with Naoko. 0/2 on them.
Four fairy wrasse so far: UNWD, unknown sudden death, my healthy lunatus, and the "fully quarantined" exquisite that seems to have brought ich to my tank. Such fun fish but they don't seem to agree with me.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

I've had similar issues with Naoko. 0/2 on them.
Four fairy wrasse so far: UNWD, unknown sudden death, my healthy lunatus, and the "fully quarantined" exquisite that seems to have brought ich to my tank. Such fun fish but they don't seem to agree with me.

To be fair, I think two were unwd and one was a self inflicted strike injury from the split second after it was released into the qt.


Just to put some color on your recent outbreak, I believe you got your exquisite from Mike right?

His wrasse protocol is quite good and that fish has a low chance of being the vector. In my opinion, it's much more likely that ick made its way in through some other means, and the addition of fish threw off the balance and harmony (stress event) causing some fish to show spots.

 

[Slocke]

Just to put some color on your recent outbreak, I believe you got your exquisite from Mike right?

His wrasse protocol is quite good and that fish has a low chance of being the vector. In my opinion, it's much more likely that ick made its way in through some other means, and the addition of fish threw off the balance and harmony (stress event) causing some fish to show spots.

I'm not sure his real name but Dr. Reef. and I just got this from Jay:

If this is ich (visual IDs are never 100%) then I would say yes, the fish had tomonts on its skin before arrival to your tank. Now, were the tomonts large enough to see prior to shipment? Perhaps not.

In your second photo, I can count about 20 white spots on the right side of the fish and its fins. IMO, if there was ich in your tank that would cause that many tomonts in 24 hours, then I cannot see how that could have happened without some other fish, already in your tank, having active ich.

Just seeing white spots is not confirmation of ich. Mucus plugs, microsporidians and even sand grains also cause white spots on fish. You need to try and confirm it is ich through other clues - spots on the clear parts of fins (which I think I can clearly see) is an indication of ich over mucus plugs or microsporidians. Sand grains will fall off and not return.

With ich trophonts - they will come and go, changing location and relative number over time, say 24 to 36 hours. Sometimes, the spots go away entirely, and then return a few days later (when the disease is first starting up).


Jay

I don't know. I know how highly respected he is and honestly save for the spots both fish look incredibly healthy for fish that were shipped overnight. On the other hand it seems incredible that that many spots could appear so quickly without prior infection.

To be fair, I think two were unwd and one was a self inflicted strike injury from the split second after it was released into the qt.

I think that's what killed my second as I have glass lids.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

I didn't realize the time between introduction and first visual symptoms was only a day. That changes things

 

[Slocke]

I didn't realize the time between introduction and first visual symptoms was only a day. That changes things

Yeah its very disappointing.

So I think I'm going to order a 40W UV. Just have to decide whether to remove and treat the wrasse or not.

 

[Slocke]

On top of all this I had ordered a ribbon goby from my LFS. I guess now I have to tell him to sell it. What a mess.

 

[i cant think]

On top of all this I had ordered a ribbon goby from my LFS. I guess now I have to tell him to sell it. What a mess.

I wouldn’t tell him to sell it yet, if you have a holding tank I would put him into that or if you’re willing to then because of how thick a goby’s slime coat is you should be fine.

 

[Slocke]

Well Dr. Reef just called and told me he thinks it isn't ich but if it is he'll insure me for the tank and everything in it which is frankly incredible.

 

[Mschmidt]

That's an amazing warranty! it'd be gut wrenching to need it, but great it's there.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

Well Dr. Reef just called and told me he thinks it isn't ich but if it is he'll insure me for the tank and everything in it which is frankly incredible.

I don't see Anything on the clear part of the fins, which is usually my dead giveaway.

 

[Slocke]

I wouldn’t tell him to sell it yet, if you have a holding tank I would put him into that or if you’re willing to then because of how thick a goby’s slime coat is you should be fine.

Well not sure where to put it yet but there it is.

 

[i cant think]

Well not sure where to put it yet but there it is.

Now you’ve shown us this, you have to tell us what your other decision was

 

[Petcrazyson]

Well not sure where to put it yet but there it is.

Don’t kill me but the first pic I saw of it I thought it died. This is the one that you liked before right?

 

[Slocke]

Don’t kill me but the first pic I saw of it I thought it died. This is the one that you liked before right?

You really like to insult this fish hunh?

I swear one second its completely bland the next its just glowing blue. Not sure if its the angle and the light or if its changing color. It is so weird. I'm really excited about it.

 

[Petcrazyson]

Lol I’ve killed two of your gobies

 

[Slocke]

Well this has been a crazy 48 hours hasn't it. Wow. Anyway I'm fairly sure I don't have ich. (fingers crossed)
Which means I feel more confident moving the new fish into the display. Hopefully it will then decide to come out. They are known for being very cryptic so we'll see. (though really they seem to be hardly known at all).
I hope it does well and I can feature it on an oddball fish thread. Also if it does well it shall be called "Baby Oarfish". Will that confuse people? yes. Will that entertain me endlessly? Definetly

 

[Petcrazyson]

I should never have pointed those spots out. I’d of saved you a massive headache. Sorry again lol but hey I kept you on your toes lol.