Well, when a predator eats it, the death is natural and I don't have to go to sleep knowing the anemone died because of "me".They don’t feel pain though.
How is intentionally adding a predator to eat them alive going to be any less “painful?”
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Well, when a predator eats it, the death is natural and I don't have to go to sleep knowing the anemone died because of "me".They don’t feel pain though.
How is intentionally adding a predator to eat them alive going to be any less “painful?”
i actually have been considering freezing them, that is a good idea! But about the water quality, it is just fine, and could inhabit most invertebrates, fish, and I even have corals growing in there. It was kind of misleading for me to say that the params are unbalanced, more so that they're not so stable and perfect that a nudibranch would survive since as mentioned, they're extremely sensitive regarding water quality. The anemone itself though is thriving. Its growth atleast 10 times the size from when I got it, from about a centimeter in size to about 5 inches. Its progress is another contributer to why I don't want to be the one to kill it.Do you see the contradiction you're presenting? It's ok to have them live in a tank with poor water quality (torturing them?) but it's inhumane to let them be eaten?
Whether keeping animals in captivity or conserving animals in the wild there will always be sticky ethical questions. I would argue the top and most important priority is the ecosystem maintaining the animals. As far as killing invertabrates like anemones humanly, I would guess, and I want to emphasize it's just a guess, would be to freeze them. Since they are almost certainly ectotherms with out any body temperature regulatory systems that would cause them to go into shock like mammals thier body functions "likely" will just slow down and stop as their temperature ceases.
But you added the predator.Well, when a predator eats it, the death is natural and I don't have to go to sleep knowing the anemone died because of "me".
No. Because weeds do not have nervous systems, and sea anemones do, and although they cannot feel pain, they can feel discomfort, and I said this already, but honestly its just the thought that their bodies are doing what they can on all of their power to survive is what is doing it for me.
True... but I think that just manually killing it is what I am afraid of doing.But you added the predator.
I'll tryJust kill them
how do you come to grips (honestly) with food other than plant based and even then... you are differentiating by "nervous system" but plants react to stimulus, sun, day length, pressure, temperature, touch, etc.No. Because weeds do not have nervous systems, and sea anemones do, and although they cannot feel pain, they can feel discomfort, and I said this already, but honestly its just the thought that their bodies are doing what they can on all of their power to survive is what is doing it for me.
just be the predator?Well, when a predator eats it, the death is natural and I don't have to go to sleep knowing the anemone died because of "me".
Predators kill prey for a benifit. Usually for food, but other times for defense. The anemone has no real "reason" to be killed other than that I don't want it anymore. I heard that peppermint shrimp work well though so I will look into thatjust be the predator?
Listen you are killing it so other corals can thrive similar to a Gardner. What makes life valuable is that there is death. This is the cycle of life. Without killing these aptasia it will be more difficult to have other life.Predators kill prey for a benifit. Usually for food, but other times for defense. The anemone has no real "reason" to be killed other than that I don't want it anymore. I heard that peppermint shrimp work well though so I will look into that
Listen you are killing it so other corals can thrive similar to a Gardner. What makes life valuable is that there is death. This is the cycle of life. Without killing these aptasia it will be more difficult to have other life.
Good pointsI get where your coming from in saying that you can’t kill a living creature like that, but, as others have said…it’s like pulling a weed you don’t want growing in your yard. And, just because it can “move” to keep itself alive, doesn’t make it anything more. I would suggest just taking some aiptasia-X to them, they’ll be gone within minutes. If you can’t bring yourself to do that, then get a natural predator that will eat them.
Sure about that... cat's kill birds and mice and other critters just for the sport of it.Predators kill prey for a benifit. Usually for food, but other times for defense. The anemone has no real "reason" to be killed other than that I don't want it anymore. I heard that peppermint shrimp work well though so I will look into that
They work extremely well. Buy from Reeftopia.Predators kill prey for a benifit. Usually for food, but other times for defense. The anemone has no real "reason" to be killed other than that I don't want it anymore. I heard that peppermint shrimp work well though so I will look into that
Get a Australian stripy it’s a great fish will eat them all up they can’t resistYeah you're absolutely right! But their bodies will still do whatever it can in its power to keep the body alive, and prohibiting that is just sad you know
Will probably have to just have to kill them and get it over with though...
Yeah, same with dolphins and pufferfish. But who said I wanted to be like them?Sure about that... cat's kill birds and mice and other critters just for the sport of it.