Happy Ending with a Moorish Idol

[Tjakes680]

Great job just try to vary his diet even when they eat its hard to give them what they really need but i have sold many that have lived for years so again great job looks like a success story

 

[Dawn Dababneh]

I had a rough week with my QT this week and lost some fish to a gram negative bacterial infection.

All is good now and remaining fish are in treatment with NFG and doing better.

Figured I would share a happy story since the disease forum can be a rough place to be sometimes.

Some of you (@4FordFamily @Humblefish @dwwataz ) are in tune with my moorish idol situation. For those of you who are not, it goes something like this.

I have had him for roughly 120 days now. He went through full QT prior to making it to my DT (copper, GC, and metro/focus soaked food for 10 days). Within a couple weeks in DT he had lightened up on his eating. (He eats like a pig normally, and strange for an idol but he would eat anything you put in the tank). He came down with a bacterial infection so I had to catch him (that was fun). Move him to a QT and then he was treated with the trifecta for 12 days. I left him in QT for an additional week for observation. Last night a 30 minute bath in MB and back to DT in an acclimation box.

He has made a full recovery and back to eating anything and everything.

Day I moved him to QT and started ABX:

Today in DT!

It looks like it’s in a reef tank? My understanding is that they are not reef safe

 

[vetteguy53081]

Gotta LOVE Idols!!

 

[HotRocks]

It looks like it’s in a reef tank? My understanding is that they are not reef safe

Definitely a reef tank. I am a fish guy, if he snacks he snacks. Worth having the fish! I do not keep fancy coral

It's my understanding that they are reef safe (with caution).

 

[HotRocks]

Here is my Idol eating Nori from wife's hand.

Sorry for all the glare in video, but you get the point!

 

[sundog101]

Favorite fish of all time!

 

[zie2695]

My dream fish!!!

 

[RtomKinMad]

Great story and super cool fish. Thanks for sharing. I’m sorry to ask but what is the trifecta of meds you used first.
I just lost a beautiful pyramid butterfly and two other fish. Got velvet and was getting better in quarantine with copper and then got a bacteria infection, looked just like your fish with the infection. Our LFS was out of antibiotics but I had some erythromycin on hand so started with that while we ordered the furan online and had to wait. We had several fish in quarantine and lost three to the infection waiting for the Furon to arrive. Will now keep on hand. The other fish have survived and back to DT. Thank you

 

[HotRocks]

Great story and super cool fish. Thanks for sharing. I’m sorry to ask but what is the trifecta of meds you used first.
I just lost a beautiful pyramid butterfly and two other fish. Got velvet and was getting better in quarantine with copper and then got a bacteria infection, looked just like your fish with the infection. Our LFS was out of antibiotics but I had some erythromycin on hand so started with that while we ordered the furan online and had to wait. We had several fish in quarantine and lost three to the infection waiting for the Furon to arrive. Will now keep on hand. The other fish have survived and back to DT. Thank you

Sorry to hear about your losses

Trifecta is Metroplex, Kanaplex, and Furan-2 all used together.

NFG is even better, which I keep on hand now. Nitrofuracin Green Powder.

http://store.nationalfishpharm.com/NFP-products-Nitrofuracin-Green-59584.Item.html

 

[Samandar]

Hi,
Morish Idol is the fish I always like it to have. But I heard and read it isn't reef safe. Is it right? Which reefs are possible to keep with MI?

 

[RtomKinMad]

Sorry to hear about your losses

Trifecta is Metroplex, Kanaplex, and Furan-2 all used together.

NFG is even better, which I keep on hand now. Nitrofuracin Green Powder.

http://store.nationalfishpharm.com/NFP-products-Nitrofuracin-Green-59584.Item.html

Thank you. Do you know where I can order these. I would like to keep on hand. I don’t want to loose anymore fish. We also lost a female clown fairy wrasse we had for a couple of years. Saw her on Monday looked fat, happy no signs of illness or stress, eating well. Worked late Tuesday so didn’t look lights out on reef and Wednesday when I got home couldn’t find her. We never saw her again. Has been three weeks now. No other losses, tank looks fine, lid on tank so didn’t jump. Don’t know but the tank consumered her. We have several large wrasses and I think my lime green wrasse (not a reef safe, we learned and not a nice fish) killed her or injured her while we were at work. The lime green is very aggressive. I thought it was a Melanarus wrasse when I bought it from a different LFS than we normally use. It is very healthy too and too hard to catch to move. The fish we lost were in our new tank we quarantined and still got velvet. At least I believe was velvet. Small sand like white spots moved very very fast, fish swimming into power head flow and skin pealing. Then secondary bacteria infection. I still have a purple tang in quarantine in copper. We have chronic ich in our reef but do ich maintenance, don’t add new fish, and no signs of ich on fish in months. We removed the purple from the reef due to aggression from other larger tangs. It will go into the 93cube after the quarantine. We are using copper on it because we know it came from a tank with chronic ich. Even though I never see any on the purple. I’ve read ich never really goes away and we didn’t treated it just UV sterilizer, good quality food, nori, garlic, vitamins, good strong flow and as little stress as possible. We have huge bio load so no more fish for the reef anyway.
Thank you for answering my question. We jumped both feet into this hobby with no research and later started our research. Wish we would have learned more first so
Would not have lost so many fish to diseases. We seem to have a lot of fin rot. We have RODI and well water. I think we have bacteria from our well water that gets past our RODI. We feed very high quality food and do weekly water changes all the appropriate things. And Furon has worked when we have used it. But lost some fish early on to fin rot that we couldn’t help or didn’t know how to. Tried reef rally in the 75g reef tank 2 years ago that is suppose to be reef safe and for fin rot. Fish died anyway and killed a bunch of coral. So won’t try that again. Then we found Furon and set up proper quarantine. Will only use one LFS from now on and quarantine! Thank you
And gorgeous moorish idol! My husband loves that fish. We love our fish too. We have a large fish tank with some coral and not all coral safe fish. We also have a 180g fish only tank so we could have angels and triggers. That tank is very stable!
Thanks again for sharing. Sorry for the hijack.

 

[Samandar]

Hi, any answer?

 

[RtomKinMad]

Sorry to hear about your losses

Trifecta is Metroplex, Kanaplex, and Furan-2 all used together.

NFG is even better, which I keep on hand now. Nitrofuracin Green Powder.

http://store.nationalfishpharm.com/NFP-products-Nitrofuracin-Green-59584.Item.html

Question for you. My emporer angel in fo tank got bit or spiked and has a wound. I’ve been watching for a few days. Do you honk this wound needs treatment? He’s large about 5-6 inches and fat! I only have 20gal quarantine available and my 40gal has purple tang with copper. He’s in the 180gal now some agression when the Koran is hungry! The Koran is older and much larger. Otherwise they keep to themselves. Also have 10-12 inch Sohal tang not sure who injured the emperor.

 

[HotRocks]

Hi,
Morish Idol is the fish I always like it to have. But I heard and read it isn't reef safe. Is it right? Which reefs are possible to keep with MI?

I don't know that they would mix well with an SPS dominant tank. I have very very little SPS.

 

[HotRocks]

Thank you. Do you know where I can order these. I would like to keep on hand. I don’t want to loose anymore fish. We also lost a female clown fairy wrasse we had for a couple of years. Saw her on Monday looked fat, happy no signs of illness or stress, eating well. Worked late Tuesday so didn’t look lights out on reef and Wednesday when I got home couldn’t find her. We never saw her again. Has been three weeks now. No other losses, tank looks fine, lid on tank so didn’t jump. Don’t know but the tank consumered her. We have several large wrasses and I think my lime green wrasse (not a reef safe, we learned and not a nice fish) killed her or injured her while we were at work. The lime green is very aggressive. I thought it was a Melanarus wrasse when I bought it from a different LFS than we normally use. It is very healthy too and too hard to catch to move. The fish we lost were in our new tank we quarantined and still got velvet. At least I believe was velvet. Small sand like white spots moved very very fast, fish swimming into power head flow and skin pealing. Then secondary bacteria infection. I still have a purple tang in quarantine in copper. We have chronic ich in our reef but do ich maintenance, don’t add new fish, and no signs of ich on fish in months. We removed the purple from the reef due to aggression from other larger tangs. It will go into the 93cube after the quarantine. We are using copper on it because we know it came from a tank with chronic ich. Even though I never see any on the purple. I’ve read ich never really goes away and we didn’t treated it just UV sterilizer, good quality food, nori, garlic, vitamins, good strong flow and as little stress as possible. We have huge bio load so no more fish for the reef anyway.
Thank you for answering my question. We jumped both feet into this hobby with no research and later started our research. Wish we would have learned more first so
Would not have lost so many fish to diseases. We seem to have a lot of fin rot. We have RODI and well water. I think we have bacteria from our well water that gets past our RODI. We feed very high quality food and do weekly water changes all the appropriate things. And Furon has worked when we have used it. But lost some fish early on to fin rot that we couldn’t help or didn’t know how to. Tried reef rally in the 75g reef tank 2 years ago that is suppose to be reef safe and for fin rot. Fish died anyway and killed a bunch of coral. So won’t try that again. Then we found Furon and set up proper quarantine. Will only use one LFS from now on and quarantine! Thank you
And gorgeous moorish idol! My husband loves that fish. We love our fish too. We have a large fish tank with some coral and not all coral safe fish. We also have a 180g fish only tank so we could have angels and triggers. That tank is very stable!
Thanks again for sharing. Sorry for the hijack.

I get everything for the trifecta from Amazon.

Also, the NFG is available on the site I linked in previous post. That's the only place I know to get it.

 

[HotRocks]

Question for you. My emporer angel in fo tank got bit or spiked and has a wound. I’ve been watching for a few days. Do you honk this wound needs treatment? He’s large about 5-6 inches and fat! I only have 20gal quarantine available and my 40gal has purple tang with copper. He’s in the 180gal now some agression when the Koran is hungry! The Koran is older and much larger. Otherwise they keep to themselves. Also have 10-12 inch Sohal tang not sure who injured the emperor.

It doesn't look infected to me. If it doesn't start to improve in the next few days or begins to appear larger then I would get a QT ready.

One thing you can do to help this heal if the fish is easily catchable, is 90 min bath in acriflavine. It's an antiseptic that will prevent the injury from becoming infected. Ruby Reef Rally contains acriflavine and I think you mentioned in your other post you have used it before.

 

[Javier Leon]

Great Job you did there to keep your babies alive and healthy, that’s my goal to have one of those but I have to wait more and longer so my RedSea Max S-650 LED tank matures more is only 2 years and I don’t have QT one day I will have one of those. Great animal keep posting pictures please

 

[RtomKinMad]

It doesn't look infected to me. If it doesn't start to improve in the next few days or begins to appear larger then I would get a QT ready.

One thing you can do to help this heal if the fish is easily catchable, is 90 min bath in acriflavine. It's an antiseptic that will prevent the injury from becoming infected. Ruby Reef Rally contains acriflavine and I think you mentioned in your other post you have used it before.

Ok thank you! I will keep my eye on him. Feeding Nori and vitamins too. Hopefully will help it heal. Being in an agrrssive tank they get scuffed from time to time. Luckily my majestic angel is still the smallest and has some places the bigger ones can’t get into. We are ready to move the majestic to a 93gal if needed. Already have an annularis angel in our reef. We like the coral but love the fish. We are just starting to try some SPS but simple hardy stuff, not too expensive incase my none reef safe fish take a bite. Thank you very much for your help. Sometimes we just learn by reading and asking questions here. Can you post a full tank shot? It looks really pretty! We can’t seem to keep zoas. I think you said you have a lot of them. I think ours get eaten. We do enjoy the tanks with them. Have a nice day.

 

[HotRocks]

Ok thank you! I will keep my eye on him. Feeding Nori and vitamins too. Hopefully will help it heal. Being in an agrrssive tank they get scuffed from time to time. Luckily my majestic angel is still the smallest and has some places the bigger ones can’t get into. We are ready to move the majestic to a 93gal if needed. Already have an annularis angel in our reef. We like the coral but love the fish. We are just starting to try some SPS but simple hardy stuff, not too expensive incase my none reef safe fish take a bite. Thank you very much for your help. Sometimes we just learn by reading and asking questions here. Can you post a full tank shot? It looks really pretty! We can’t seem to keep zoas. I think you said you have a lot of them. I think ours get eaten. We do enjoy the tanks with them. Have a nice day.

Yes if you look closely "most" of my LR is covered in zoa's.
I am sure your angel is taking care of the zoa's...

 

[RtomKinMad]

Very pretty tank. How many gal? I see you have many tangs! Lov it. How do they all get along? We started with 11 tangs in our 300. Lost the naso in one month, didn’t eat well. We started getting agression after a year so we took out the powder brown and bought the 93 cube for it. Then the tomini got beaten really bad and almost died but I caught it floating at the top and put it in antibiotics in quarantine and it survived put it in the 93 also. Then the purple we have in quarantine now because it was being chased constantly by our Caribbean blue. I thought I had planned well three of each kind plus hippo tang. All about the same size. Any suggestions for getting tangs to get along? We have a very large Sohal and medium scopa in our FO tank. The Sohal doesn’t even notice the scopa. Thank goodness. The scopa was originally in the 300 also but didn’t work with the purple.
We have hippo tang, dejardini, Caribbean blue, yellow, chevron, and blue eyed kole left in the 300. Seems to be working now.
Thank you your tank and fish are beautiful!