Brooklynella or something else?

[RosinReefs]

i already lost it’s partner, bi color blenny, royal gramma and watchman goby although I can’t confirm if he died to this disease since he just simply disappeared and haven’t seen him for over a month and my phosphates had a spike which doesn’t normally happen unless something dies.

I moved this mocha clown to a QT and started with a FW dip 5min then a rally pro dip for 1hr 30min, after that I transferred the clown into the QT tank where I dosed metroplex every 2 days, it’s been about a week and a half since I had him in the QT and it wasn’t until today when I woke up to see him covered in this

If you notice in the first picture the dots seem like ich because it’s on his skin but literally 10-15min later I noticed those same dots coming off with some type of slime coat?

 

[RosinReefs]

Anyone??

 

[vetteguy53081]

i already lost it’s partner, bi color blenny, royal gramma and watchman goby although I can’t confirm if he died to this disease since he just simply disappeared and haven’t seen him for over a month and my phosphates had a spike which doesn’t normally happen unless something dies.

I moved this mocha clown to a QT and started with a FW dip 5min then a rally pro dip for 1hr 30min, after that I transferred the clown into the QT tank where I dosed metroplex every 2 days, it’s been about a week and a half since I had him in the QT and it wasn’t until today when I woke up to see him covered in this

If you notice in the first picture the dots seem like ich because it’s on his skin but literally 10-15min later I noticed those same dots coming off with some type of slime coat?

Fish is in quarantine- Are you medicating with anything? Looks to be secondary bacterial lesions often confused with ich. With brook, mucus generally starts at the facial area as well as gills and spreads across the body producing lesions as it progresses often confused with ich and can turn into secondary bacteria. Other symptoms will be lethargic behavior, refusing to eat and heavy breathing from the mucus.
Start with a prolonged 60 minute bath of ruby rally pro then at a lower concentration in a quarantine tank. The longer the fish are exposed to the treatment, the more effective it will be at eliminating this issue.
Since a formalin solution is often not available for use, temporary relief can be achieved by giving the fish a FW bath or dip in water same temperature as display tank. Even though this treatment will not cure the disease, it can help to remove some of the parasites, as well as reduce the amount of mucus in the gills to assist with respiration problems.
Treatment is best done in a QT tank using either quick cure (more effective but now harder to find) or Ruby Rally Pro. Ruby takes a little longer and initial treatment generally takes 2-3 days to really start going to work.

 

[RosinReefs]

Fish is in quarantine- Are you medicating with anything? Looks to be secondary bacterial lesions often confused with ich. With brook, mucus generally starts at the facial area as well as gills and spreads across the body producing lesions as it progresses often confused with ich and can turn into secondary bacteria. Other symptoms will be lethargic behavior, refusing to eat and heavy breathing from the mucus.
Start with a prolonged 60 minute bath of ruby rally pro then at a lower concentration in a quarantine tank. The longer the fish are exposed to the treatment, the more effective it will be at eliminating this issue.
Since a formalin solution is often not available for use, temporary relief can be achieved by giving the fish a FW bath or dip in water same temperature as display tank. Even though this treatment will not cure the disease, it can help to remove some of the parasites, as well as reduce the amount of mucus in the gills to assist with respiration problems.
Treatment is best done in a QT tank using either quick cure (more effective but now harder to find) or Ruby Rally Pro. Ruby takes a little longer and initial treatment generally takes 2-3 days to really start going to work.

Please re read the post, I have done all this

 

[RosinReefs]

i already lost it’s partner, bi color blenny, royal gramma and watchman goby although I can’t confirm if he died to this disease since he just simply disappeared and haven’t seen him for over a month and my phosphates had a spike which doesn’t normally happen unless something dies.

I moved this mocha clown to a QT and started with a FW dip 5min then a rally pro dip for 1hr 30min, after that I transferred the clown into the QT tank where I dosed metroplex every 2 days, it’s been about a week and a half since I had him in the QT and it wasn’t until today when I woke up to see him covered in this

If you notice in the first picture the dots seem like ich because it’s on his skin but literally 10-15min later I noticed those same dots coming off with some type of slime coat?

ANYONE?????

 

[Jay Hemdal]

ANYONE?????

Visually, it does look like Brooklynella. Did the other fish that died have the same symptoms?

Here is a write-up I did on Brook:

Brooklynellosis

Cause
Brooklynellosis is caused by a ciliated protozoan, Brooklynella hostilis. It commonly affects newly acquired wild-caught clownfish, thus its common name “clownfish disease.” Entire shipments of wild-caught clownfish have been lost to this infection. It is also commonly seen in marine angelfish and Anthias and sometimes in butterflyfish and tangs. The life cycle is direct, there is no resting stage.

Symptoms
Aquarists often miss the early symptoms of this malady in their fish, so by the time it’s identified, it’s often too late to easily save the specimen. The first signs of this disease may be limited to slightly folded fins combined with lethargy. Soon, skin mucus production increases, as does the fish’s breathing rate. The fish will then lose color, stop feeding, and hang in one location, with death following in a matter of hours to days.

Uronema often has similar symptoms, but a reddish underlying lesion is usually associated with that disease. Bacterial infections can produce similarly cloudy skin, but they typically do not result in rapid breathing. End-stage Cryptocaryon can sometimes be mistaken for Brooklynellosis, as well. Positive identification requires microscopic examination of a skin scraping. Look for medium-sized, barely motile protozoans that are ventrally flattened with a slightly domed dorsal side and have cilia mostly at one end.

Treatment
Few treatments are effective against Brooklynellosis, although two options include a 14-day chloroquine treatment at 15 mg/l or daily formalin dips at 150-167 ppm for 45 minutes with good aeration. The effectiveness of dips is vastly improved if the fish is then moved to a non-infected aquarium. Reducing the specific gravity of the treatment tank may assist the fish in balancing the electrolytes lost due to skin and gill damage. A target specific gravity of 1.018 should be maintained during treatment. Some aquarists have reported success using a proprietary product that contains a low dose of formalin along with acriflavine. Normal level copper treatments do not work for this disease.

Prevention
Acquiring captive-raised clownfish as opposed to wild-caught ones is a good way to help prevent outbreaks of this disease. However, tank raised clownfish that have been mixed with infected wild caught clownfish through the supply chain are equally at risk. Brooklynellosis is much easier to manage in a quarantine aquarium than in a main display tank.

 

[RosinReefs]

Yes the bicolor blend looked like it was peeling, he wouldn’t leave the wavemaker or the output, the royal gramma did not do this but was very sensitive to the flash on my phone whenever I would try to inspect it, both would not eat and would rarely swim around, both of my clowns did not have these symptoms till after all the other fish died

Here are 2 more picture I took 15-30min after the first one

 

[RosinReefs]

Yes the bicolor blend looked like it was peeling, he wouldn’t leave the wavemaker or the output, the royal gramma did not do this but was very sensitive to the flash on my phone whenever I would try to inspect it, both would not eat and would rarely swim around, both of my clowns did not have these symptoms till after all the other fish died

Here are 2 more picture I took 15-30min after the first one

@Jay Hemdal

 

[Jay Hemdal]

@Jay Hemdal

It does look like Brooklynella. Formalin is the best treatment, but toxic and difficult to source. Ru8by Reef Rally Pro dips and added to the tank water is the "second best" way to go I guess.

 

[RosinReefs]

It does look like Brooklynella. Formalin is the best treatment, but toxic and difficult to source. Ru8by Reef Rally Pro dips and added to the tank water is the "second best" way to go I guess how toxic

It does look like Brooklynella. Formalin is the best treatment, but toxic and difficult to source. Ru8by Reef Rally Pro dips and added to the tank water is the "second best" way to go I guess.

How toxic are we talking about? It needs a well ventilated room away from anywhere we hang out or? Currently doing the rally pro method with metroplex but doesn’t seem like it’s working these picture were after 2 baths with rally pro

 

[Jay Hemdal]

How toxic are we talking about? It needs a well ventilated room away from anywhere we hang out or? Currently doing the rally pro method with metroplex but doesn’t seem like it’s working these picture were after 2 baths with rally pro

Metroplex really doesn’t help with Brook, and rally is mild, but also slow to work.

I personally wouldn’t use formalin in my home. I’ve had decades of exposure at work, and I’m betting I’ll pay for that eventually….

 

[RosinReefs]

Metroplex really doesn’t help with Brook, and rally is mild, but also slow to work.

I personally wouldn’t use formalin in my home. I’ve had decades of exposure at work, and I’m betting I’ll pay for that eventually….

I see, formalin is out of the question, I’ll keep giving him baths with rally and hope he pulls through