My paychecks come from OPMKeep that line of thinking. Some government rat somewhere is plotting on something you care about as we speak and you don’t even realize it.
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My paychecks come from OPMKeep that line of thinking. Some government rat somewhere is plotting on something you care about as we speak and you don’t even realize it.
Winter is best. Lack of forage pushes the pigs to look for livestock feed to poach. You’ll also find them frequenting deer feeders.I bow hunt and I’ve always wanted to go stick some pigs in Texas
Winter is best. Lack of forage pushes the pigs to look for livestock feed to poach. You’ll also find them frequenting deer feeders.
https://myfwc.com/about/commission/commission-meetings/may-2023/
I tried to send in something but the page was made private. I found this page. The itinerary for this is at the bottom and it’s concerning as well. FWC staff wants this passed asap and to have no public comment on the matter.
Yep it's a slippery slope from tegus and pythons to your favorite coral. Anyone see that article about Xenia in Venezuela? They will use that as an excuse. Don't kid yourselves they will ban whatever some transplant Karen thinks you shouldn't own. Earlier someone said a couple of thousand people complaining about the reptile ban, it was over a 100,000 FWC didn't bat an eye and it wasn't a law it was a regulation.Keep that line of thinking. Some government rat somewhere is plotting on something you care about as we speak and you don’t even realize it.
Yep they messed up big time, they were euthanizing pythons and killed the guys legal boa.The suppliers moving is one thing. Us losing the many species that are perfectly abundant from florida is another.
I can't imagine how long it'd take to recoup live rock when most of the live rock supplier got it from there or aqua cultured it. That'd set the hobby itself back quite a few years if there becomes a shortage before the gulf gets more attention from georgia and texas, and funneling it all in the gulf is equally concerning as we'll deplete it even faster.
That being said I don't see any concern rn besides fear of the slippery slope this won't be well managed, looks to me its mostly double downing on the restricted species rather than banning aquariums. Holy thursday massacre AFAIK (last I kept up with it was when they released the body cam footage) wasn't even a violation of the regulations, it was a miss-identification followed by lack of communication and completely off procedures for if the scenario was even correct for them, they didn't even do it right or humanely. The main concern in relation to that is them potentially killing your dog because it looks like a dog face pufferfish, cause they did miss-ID the snakes and they were legally kept as well (hopefully that's still true, again I only pay attention to it for about a week.)
FWC stonewalled that guy until the time limit ran out then showed up unannounced. They acted in bad faith from the beginning. Don't think for one second that they care about jobs or economic/environmental impact. If they really cared your cats and dogs would be on the blacklist as well since they kill way more native species than reptiles. Ever seen a snake eat a gopher tortoise? I've seen dogs do it. Of course the worst invasive impact to those are humans, but because gopher turtles are fewer so are indigos and diamond backs.The suppliers moving is one thing. Us losing the many species that are perfectly abundant from florida is another.
I can't imagine how long it'd take to recoup live rock when most of the live rock supplier got it from there or aqua cultured it. That'd set the hobby itself back quite a few years if there becomes a shortage before the gulf gets more attention from georgia and texas, and funneling it all in the gulf is equally concerning as we'll deplete it even faster and the slippery slope of regulations stopping gulf collecting, invasive species, etc.
That being said I don't see any concern rn besides fear of the slippery slope this won't be well managed, looks to me its mostly double downing on the restricted species rather than banning aquariums. Holy thursday massacre AFAIK (last I kept up with it was when they released the body cam footage) wasn't even a violation of the regulations, it was a miss-identification followed by lack of communication and completely off procedures for if the scenario was even correct for them, they didn't even do it right or humanely. The main concern in relation to that is them potentially killing your dog because it looks like a dog face pufferfish, cause they did miss-ID the snakes and they were legally kept as well (hopefully that's still true, again I only pay attention to it for about a week.)
Did that cause a bunch of reptile stores to shut down? Did that cause reptile shows and conventions to no longer host events in Florida? Did that cause thousands of jobs lost in retail reptile industry?Tell that to the reptile guys. Look up the Holy Thursday massacre. FWC does whatever they want.
Yes it most certainly effected local stores and reptile shows. Go visit one and ask. Did it kill thousands of jobs probably not it's a niche market just like this hobby. I know it harmed the big name breeders. BTW stop using Google it's the most curated and biased search engine ever.Did that cause a bunch of reptile stores to shut down? Did that cause reptile shows and conventions to no longer host events in Florida? Did that cause thousands of jobs lost in retail reptile industry?
Those are legit questions because I am not a reptile guy and quick Google about Holy Thursday massacre talks about killing of a bunch of snakes for one guy, not the apocalypse of reptile industry ...
Yes it most certainly effected local stores and reptile shows. Go visit one and ask. Did it kill thousands of jobs probably not it's a niche market just like this hobby. I know it harmed the big name breeders. BTW stop using Google it's the most curated and biased search engine ever.
Mayan cichlid bad... peacock bass lol.The reason they are saying this relates to stupid idiots releasing lioinfish etc. And or Cichlids.
FWC stonewalled that guy until the time limit ran out then showed up unannounced. They acted in bad faith from the beginning. Don't think for one second that they care about jobs or economic/environmental impact. If they really cared your cats and dogs would be on the blacklist as well since they kill way more native species than reptiles. Ever seen a snake eat a gopher tortoise? I've seen dogs do it. Of course the worst invasive impact to those are humans, but because gopher turtles are fewer so are indigos and diamond backs.
Did that cause a bunch of reptile stores to shut down? Did that cause reptile shows and conventions to no longer host events in Florida? Did that cause thousands of jobs lost in retail reptile industry?
Those are legit questions because I am not a reptile guy and quick Google about Holy Thursday massacre talks about killing of a bunch of snakes for one guy, not the apocalypse of reptile industry ...
Just wait until more pocket poodles start getting snatched up by gators and coyotes, I bet you'll see bounties come back.Absolutely.
...and I bet they ignore how many species have gone extinct/critically endangered due to cats but they're so culturally ingrained they wouldn't even attempt it but will attempt anyone with a venomous reptile or fish because 'its not normal'.