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Ehh....that will work sometimes but ph has way too many factors involved beyond alk to consider that consistently correct. I.e. fresh o2 vs co2..is the skimmer producing less bubbles because it's dirty, are there more people in the house, is a window open, what's the season..blah blah
I keep a CO2 monitor next to the tank, and installed a whole home dehumidifier with fresh air intake to ensure that issue doesnt occur. #reef-fiend. Since its so easy to monitor pH its actually a really accurate, strong, real-time indicator for me. Skimmer getting some gunk on it gets addressed alot sooner too... o2 is entirely unrelated to pH btw.

Alk, co2, temp, salinity = pH.
 

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I keep a CO2 monitor next to the tank, and installed a whole home dehumidifier with fresh air intake to ensure that issue doesnt occur. #reef-fiend. Since its so easy to monitor pH its actually a really accurate, strong, real-time indicator for me. Skimmer getting some gunk on it gets addressed alot sooner too... o2 is entirely unrelated to pH btw.

Alk, co2, temp, salinity = pH.
Its unrelated in that formula...but if co2 is higher in relation to o2 then the ph falls. To bring the co2 down in our house.....the best way is introduce more oxygen and or air with less co2. Hence....when you open a window or door and allow fresh air inside the levels of oxygen vs co2 are changed and co2 falls allowing ph to go up.I would argue its very much rleated.
 

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Its unrelated in that formula...but if co2 is higher in relation to o2 then the ph falls. To bring the co2 down in our house.....the best way is introduce more oxygen and or air with less co2. Hence....when you open a window or door and allow fresh air inside the levels of oxygen vs co2 are changed and co2 falls allowing ph to go up.I would argue its very much rleated.
You can have a tank low on o2 and surrounding air low on CO2, or high on CO2, pH wont change. I.e. air exchange is poor, or tanks that dont run skimmers, or run recirc skimmers can run into those o2 deficiencies.

Youre not wrong that fresh air increases pH, but oxygen isnt part of that equation, just the co2 makeup of the surrounding air. With a constant supply of fresh air, that leaves only one variable to be concerned with - alk. If pH is down relative to the trend - consumption is likely to be down and alk potentially rising as a result.

Its actually pretty suprising how easy it is to get a room up to 1000ppm CO2 and that has about ~.06pH decrease IIRC.
 

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my ALK/NO3/PO4 consumption has been trending upwards for the past year... i need to get a controller and start dosing lol. manual dosing for me is not enough :(. can't keep up
I started at 8.9 two weeks ago and now i have a happy 8.5 dkh holding.
 

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Numbers are in...
 

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Shane I’m having SPS withdrawal lol. Question for people who got Nudi’s. How are yours doing? Just grabbed a few for this dang Aiptasia.
 

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Shane I’m having SPS withdrawal lol. Question for people who got Nudi’s. How are yours doing? Just grabbed a few for this dang Aiptasia.
I still haven't seen mine, but I know they're in there somewhere because some patches of rock have no more aiptasia
 

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I didn't see mine until the aptasia were gone and they were crawling on the glass. Started with 3 or 4 and had like 15 when it was done
 

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I love DE filters… slick diy I’m gonna try. @stoney7713 I have some thoughts lol (getting in line :) )

I'll send you a DM
 

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I love DE filters… slick diy I’m gonna try. @stoney7713 I have some thoughts lol (getting in line :) )

I could see this being very useful for an AIO or other sumpless systems.
 

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I could see this being very useful for an AIO or other sumpless systems.
Heck it’s submersible so you could even just drop it in a sump :) I first starting using DE to address an Achille’s ich outbreak. Using a DE filter & siphoning the sand along with uv & the ich never returned (anecdotally). Once i saw water filtered down to 1 micron, i never wanted to go back. Its like the fish are gliding thru air.
 

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Heck it’s submersible so you could even just drop it in a sump :) I first starting using DE to address an Achille’s ich outbreak. Using a DE filter & siphoning the sand along with uv & the ich never returned (anecdotally). Once i saw water filtered down to 1 micron, i never wanted to go back. Its like the fish are gliding thru air.
I've read the thread before but don't really get how it works..or I forget. That threads like reading a recipe these days. "Well first...you have to understand....the peanut butter and jelly takes me back to a simpler time when I was child"....etc....blah blah. Just gimme the dam recipe. You vacuum or what?
 

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I've read the thread before but don't really get how it works..or I forget. That threads like reading a recipe these days. "Well first...you have to understand....the peanut butter and jelly takes me back to a simpler time when I was child"....etc....blah blah. Just gimme the dam recipe. You vacuum or what?
Vacuum yes. DE is super porous; you ”charge” it by sucking in the DE and it sticks on the “outside” of the filter creating a bunch of .5-1 micron holes for the water to pass thru, once charged you put the inlet where you want and the outlet where you want. You can connect a sand siphon cup to the inlet and clean the sand or just let it filter the open water; with this design you could drop it in a brute of ocean water and clean it to 1 micron- avoiding red tide or high phos; you can use the outlet to blast rocks which send gunk into the water column to be filtered etc.
 

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Heck it’s submersible so you could even just drop it in a sump :) I first starting using DE to address an Achille’s ich outbreak. Using a DE filter & siphoning the sand along with uv & the ich never returned (anecdotally). Once i saw water filtered down to 1 micron, i never wanted to go back. Its like the fish are gliding thru air.
I have just been vacuuming the sand with the drain hose run to a filter sock in the sump. Has worked well.

New tank is an AIO so this might be a way to go.
 
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