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Nice! We’ll have to share notes on the Crayola Madness.
I was talking to an experienced collector today and he said he’s had speciosa frags do well for up to 7-months, with growth and PE and then die for no apparent reason.
 

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Funny I keep hearing so many different things from different people. Some are saying they are easier than tenuis, others harder. Some are saying more flow, other less. We will see I guess! I'll have mine in two separate spots with different flow and lights and interested to see which does better
Nice! We’ll have to share notes on the Crayola Madness.
I was talking to an experienced collector today and he said he’s had speciosa frags do well for up to 7-months, with growth and PE and then die for no apparent reason
 

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Funny I keep hearing so many different things from different people. Some are saying they are easier than tenuis, others harder. Some are saying more flow, other less. We will see I guess! I'll have mine in two separate spots with different flow and lights and interested to see which does better
Have you seen anyone grow a frag into a colony yet? After hearing this guy today, saying he’s had healthy speciosa randomly die at seven months, I’m wondering if the people who say they are easy, have had them less than one year.
 

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Nope not that I've asked at least. Though Shane's said he has decent luck with them. I'm also wondering the whole mariculture vs aquaculture debate. I think Shane said his wild tenuis colonies have like a 25 percent survival rate which is obviously way lower than what most of us experience. Could be possible the person you are talking to is trying to develop colonies from the wild?

Have you seen anyone grow a frag into a colony yet? After hearing this guy today, saying he’s had healthy speciosa randomly die at seven months, I’m wondering if the people who say they are easy, have had them less than one year.
 

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Nope not that I've asked at least. Though Shane's said he has decent luck with them. I'm also wondering the whole mariculture vs aquaculture debate. I think Shane said his wild tenuis colonies have like a 25 percent survival rate which is obviously way lower than what most of us experience. Could be possible the person you are talking to is trying to develop colonies from the wild?
No, he was specifically taking about frags. The wild colonies I’d imagine are much lower success rate.
 

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No, he was specifically taking about frags. The wild colonies I’d imagine are much lower success rate.
Guess we will find out! I think it's about positive reinforcement. I like to give all of them a pep talk in the mornings and it's working so far
 

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No, he was specifically taking about frags. The wild colonies I’d imagine are much lower success rate.
People wonder why acros are pricey. It's because for every "homewrecker", so to speak, there's a thousand other colonies that died or never colored up to anything spectacular. For every maricultered coral there's 10 others that didn't make it.
 

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Acros can be finicky. My 4 degree temp swing yesterday may not do anything. Then again it may have an effect in a day or more. For now...everything looks happy.
 

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People wonder why acros are pricey. It's because for every "homewrecker", so to speak, there's a thousand other colonies that died or never colored up to anything spectacular. For every maricultered coral there's 10 others that didn't make it.
This is so true. Check out this video at nine minutes and 15 secs in . This is my experience until I bought my first tank conditioned/grown frags from SBB.
 

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This is so true. Check out this video at nine minutes and 15 secs in . This is my experience until I bought my first tank conditioned/grown frags from SBB.

I love his videos, I’ve seen them all and wish he posted more often. He said 1 out of 10 of those mariculture even turn into a nicely colored colony. I have no problem paying more for aquacultured. Totally agree with what he’s saying.
 

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I love his videos, I’ve seen them all and wish he posted more often. He said 1 out of 10 of those even turn into a nicely colored colony.
Which is exactly my experience, he is local in San Diego so I think I know who he is referring to for wild acros. I'm 6 for like 12 or more for wild acros with two developing some crazy good colors, maybe a third with really good colors and the rest dying.
 

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This is one that didn't make it that made me sad. It had amazing colors, but was during my experimenting with acros phase. Even being "cheaper" I've bought pieces that were 40$ and died. I thought it was the whole "acros are hard", and they are, but it was eye opening to buy tank grown pieces from SBB. The only other tank grown one I have is an ASD Rainbow Mille from another hobbiest.
 

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This is one that didn't make it that made me sad. It had amazing colors, but was during my experimenting with acros phase. Even being "cheaper" I've bought pieces that were 40$ and died. I thought it was the whole "acros are hard", and they are, but it was eye opening to buy tank grown pieces from SBB. The only other tank grown one I have is an ASD Rainbow Mille from another hobbiest.
Even aquacultured acros have about a 3 month mark. Make it 3 months or so and they should be good to go. Maricultured is a much longer timeline. I've read how Shane does his mari colonies and its quite involved.
 
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