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[AKL1950]

I don't dose any of either anymore. So far, it's been ok, and levels have been decent. I'm scared of NeoPhos anymore after my last incident. I think I had phos already in the system and just wasn't reading it due to bad test kits. So when I was dosing, I dosed to high and that's what maybe caused the last fail.

Watch your PO4 levels in relationship to how much algae is growing in your tank. Especially the back wall and power heads if you don’t clean them weekly. Too much algae will bottom out your PO4. If you dose PO4 without completely removing the algae, it just feeds the algae and PO4 will stay depressed. Once I cleaned up my water and made a concerted effort to remove all algae, my PO4 shot up. no algae to eat it. All the algae is gone now and PO4 stays between 0.13 and 0.18. I feed two good feedings each day and two good sized Nori clips a day and PO4 stays stable.

 

[Skay]

I’m going there shortly myself. The one I go to is one of the “good” ones. Out of the 8 fish I have 5 are PetCo.

this petco goes crazy

 

[AKL1950]

this petco goes crazy

Been a long time since I’ve seen a Petco with tanks that Clean. The one here all the tanks are green and trashy.

 

[Joe462]

Why do so many people have high p04?...is it the food they feed? Does frozen have more than pellets? What's the deal there you p04 masters?

I don't understand it either, i have three systems that i keep significant acros in so i track the PO4 a little closer and two i have to dose PO4 and one i have to run GFO in they all get the same food thought the one with high po4 probably gets more food, because there are more fish. but they aren't even close.

 

[Joe462]

Watch your PO4 levels in relationship to how much algae is growing in your tank. Especially the back wall and power heads if you don’t clean them weekly. Too much algae will bottom out your PO4. If you dose PO4 without completely removing the algae, it just feeds the algae and PO4 will stay depressed. Once I cleaned up my water and made a concerted effort to remove all algae, my PO4 shot up. no algae to eat it. All the algae is gone now and PO4 stays between 0.13 and 0.18. I feed two good feedings each day and two good sized Nori clips a day and PO4 stays stable.

good point, my tank with high po4 has 3 tangs and a rabbit fish so, other than a little bit of film and bubble algae there isn't much of any algae for up take, i have some in a refugium, but its probably small beans compared to even sporadic algae in the display. the tanks i have to dose are hit and miss, have outbreaks of algae here and there.

 

[billyocean]

I don't understand it either, i have three systems that i keep significant acros in so i track the PO4 a little closer and two i have to dose PO4 and one i have to run GFO in they all get the same food thought the one with high po4 probably gets more food, because there are more fish. but they aren't even close.

Yeah...I don't know if it's in relation to how many acros per gallon or what. I don't have much algae and dose the equivalent of 46 ml per day of neophos

 

[SBB Corals]

When is that Shanes walt coming back out @SBB Corals

Hard to say it's a tiny ball currently

 

[billyocean]

I don't have a skimmer, ats or refugium so the coral has to be consuming it I would think

 

[AKL1950]

Yeah...I don't know if it's in relation to how many acros per gallon or what. I don't have much algae and dose the equivalent of 46 ml per day of neophos

I would think it’s absolutely a balance of how much goes in versus how much is consumed by every living thing in the tank that needs it, and how much is removed by mechanical or other filtration mechanisms. If you start losing the balance, you have to figure out where the big consumers are or why it’s too high. I dosed PO4 and NO3 regularly until I removed all the algae and then they both shot up to higher levels. I didn’t realize how much the algae was consuming. But, when you think about it, when we fertilize our grass or plants, that’s what we feed them. Phosphates and nitrates. Once the algae was well under control, I looked at how much I’m feeding to bring the level of both back down to where I wanted it.

 

[billyocean]

I would think it’s absolutely a balance of how much goes in versus how much is consumed by every living thing in the tank that needs it, and how much is removed by mechanical or other filtration mechanisms. If you start losing the balance, you have to figure out where the big consumers are or why it’s too high. I dosed PO4 and NO3 regularly until I removed all the algae and then they both shot up to higher levels. I didn’t realize how much the algae was consuming. But, when you think about it, when we fertilize our grass or plants, that’s what we feed them. Phosphates and nitrates. Once the algae was well under control, I looked at how much I’m feeding to bring the level of both back down to where I wanted it.

Guess I've got hungry acros

 

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[Kasrift]

Thank you @Kasrift for the phyto

Glad you got them. Looks good still! I want sure if I should ship with ice packs or not.

General fyi, refrigerate and shake at least daily. I shake my bottles so the phyto doesn't settle in the morning and before I go to bed, and sometimes whenever I just open the fridge.

 

[AKL1950]

Guess I've got hungry acros

For sure! When things are close to perfect, everyone wants to grow fast.

 

[Thuan]

Glad you got them. Looks good still! I want sure if I should ship with ice packs or not.

General fyi, refrigerate and shake at least daily. I shake my bottles so the phyto doesn't settle in the morning and before I go to bed, and sometimes whenever I just open the fridge.

Appreciate the tips. I'll start dosing after lights go off at 8pm

 

[steveschuerger]

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[Baby_Shark]

Guess I've got hungry acros

You must really keep up on your water changes

 

[AKL1950]

Guess I've got hungry acros

Since I quit dosing NO3 and P04, what I’ve started doing is using Reef Roids to modulate them. I feed it one night a week and feed a little more if PO4 is low and a little less if it’s at the high end of my range. Seems to be working okay.

 

[Kasrift]

@Skay that acro colony behind the clown is on point. Best watch out @billyocean @Joe462 @AKL1950 , he is gunning for the crown of SPS growers.

 

[billyocean]

You must really keep up on your water changes

About 15% every week or two. I siphon sand with every waterchange as well.