And? Surely you have some data or insight other than the blanket statement of "tanks too young" which hasn't yet been made available to the reefing community. Please share so that we can all learn.Except in a 3 month old tank
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And? Surely you have some data or insight other than the blanket statement of "tanks too young" which hasn't yet been made available to the reefing community. Please share so that we can all learn.Except in a 3 month old tank
Yeah I think it's a lost cause for OP. Being wayyy to stubborn and coming up with bogus claims even though by page 2 there's been a ton of suggestions and solutions that they don't want to take.Comon. There's thread after thread with info supporting the "tank is too young theory". Is there any supporting yours? Not to start a fight but seriously I want to read about it
Except I did and repeated it for 2 more pages. I'm sorry if it's not the suggestion that you agree with, but it is the only one thus far founded in concrete scientific evidence, so there's that...Yeah I think it's a lost cause for OP. Being wayyy to stubborn and coming up with bogus claims even though by page 2 there's been a ton of suggestions and solutions that they don't want to take.
There's also thread after thread of people who know what they're doing setting up new tanks, cycling them in days, and throwing in acropora almost immediately, and having success.Comon. There's thread after thread with info supporting the "tank is too young theory". Is there any supporting yours? Not to start a fight but seriously I want to read about it
That was very much my point, though much better articulated, so thank you for that. I've given up. They seem to know everything and anyone who challenges that is just stubborn or inexperienced.There's also thread after thread of people who know what they're doing setting up new tanks, cycling them in days, and throwing in acropora almost immediately, and having success.
Which means "too young" isn't actually the problem in the tanks you're talking about, and saying it is more about just ending discussion.
So rather than just trying to end the discussion, maybe participate in a meaningful way. What do you thing about a "too young" tank is actually the problem?
I never said that my idea (and for the record, it's not my idea) wasn't working. I said that my individual application of the idea was not working. I found faults in my application and adjusted. Others, like yourself, found this unsatisfactory. It's not complicated.I thought the point was to help someone be successful. I did not know the point was to simply make the idea someone has work despite it not (admittedly)
And? Surely you have some data or insight other than the blanket statement of "tanks too young" which hasn't yet been made available to the reefing community. Please share so that we can all learn.
Correect... it takes 6 to 8 months to really cycle. I thought my tank was good also 3 months into setup...WRONG!sorry but once I saw "tank is 3 months old", it becomes obvious that impatience is the only real problem.
In 3 short months, the tank was cycled, 6 fish have been added, and your dosing 4 or 5 different things, thats a lot of changes for your tank to go through in 3 months. It's not a stable environement for corals, thats why a lot of people suggest waiting several months before adding corals.
It looks like your tank is just starting the ugly phase, so it will go through changes for a couple more months.
Stability takes time.
I'm really struggling to keep corals alive, and though I've followed all the steps to success, everything seems to just slowly die. I'll post as much relevant information as I can starting with my reef journal:
The tank is 3 months old Nuvo 30L (30g) and started completely sterile with the exception of Ocean Direct sand and Aqua Forest reef mud. Salinity has been kept consistent at 34.5ppt using 2 different test methods and a Tunze ATO. Temperature is a constant 77.1F. PH is 7.9. The sump consists of filter floss pads, a chaeto fuge on 8 hours at night, Rox 0.8 carbon, and Purigen. Lighting is provided by 2 AI Primes running 11 hours a day (with 4 hours total ramp) at 8" off the water tuned to UV80/V80/RB72/B100/R10/G10/W10 which should be giving around 100 par based on other people's testing.
Dosing:
3ml All for Reef daily
3ml Cheato Gro weekly
2ml AB+ daily
5ml Microbactor 7 & Clean weekly
No3 and PO4 as needed
Feeding is a blend of Reef Frenzy Nano, Reef Roids, AB+, and Frozen Mysis in homemade cubes.
Source water is RODI with tested TDS 0.0 using 2 different meters. Salt is IO Reef Crystals. I do a 10% water change monthly.
Stocking: 2 Clowns, 1 Royal Gramma, 1 Lawnmower Blenny, 1 Yellow Watchman Goby and Tiger PIstol Shrimp, 1 Banngai Cardinal, 1 Peppermint shrimp, 10 Astrea Turbo, 30 Dwarf Ceriths, 4 Red Legs, 10 Blue legs, 1 Trochus, 10 Nassarius.
I'm positive I'm not introducing anything into the tank. I always wear gloves and keep my hands out as much as possible. So far I've had 1 hammer die, 3 others that are very unhappy, acans receding, zoas constantly stressed/changing color/partially open, and 4 dead gonies.
I've convinced myself that I need more flow despite running 900gph through the return with 1/2" RFG's. I've ordered 2 600gph powerheads to combat this and I also made a video of the normal flow here:
That's about all I can think to add at this point. Any Ideas?
I'm really struggling to keep corals alive, and though I've followed all the steps to success, everything seems to just slowly die. I'll post as much relevant information as I can starting with my reef journal:
The tank is 3 months old Nuvo 30L (30g) and started completely sterile with the exception of Ocean Direct sand and Aqua Forest reef mud. Salinity has been kept consistent at 34.5ppt using 2 different test methods and a Tunze ATO. Temperature is a constant 77.1F. PH is 7.9. The sump consists of filter floss pads, a chaeto fuge on 8 hours at night, Rox 0.8 carbon, and Purigen. Lighting is provided by 2 AI Primes running 11 hours a day (with 4 hours total ramp) at 8" off the water tuned to UV80/V80/RB72/B100/R10/G10/W10 which should be giving around 100 par based on other people's testing.
Dosing:
3ml All for Reef daily
3ml Cheato Gro weekly
2ml AB+ daily
5ml Microbactor 7 & Clean weekly
No3 and PO4 as needed
Feeding is a blend of Reef Frenzy Nano, Reef Roids, AB+, and Frozen Mysis in homemade cubes.
Source water is RODI with tested TDS 0.0 using 2 different meters. Salt is IO Reef Crystals. I do a 10% water change monthly.
Stocking: 2 Clowns, 1 Royal Gramma, 1 Lawnmower Blenny, 1 Yellow Watchman Goby and Tiger PIstol Shrimp, 1 Banngai Cardinal, 1 Peppermint shrimp, 10 Astrea Turbo, 30 Dwarf Ceriths, 4 Red Legs, 10 Blue legs, 1 Trochus, 10 Nassarius.
I'm positive I'm not introducing anything into the tank. I always wear gloves and keep my hands out as much as possible. So far I've had 1 hammer die, 3 others that are very unhappy, acans receding, zoas constantly stressed/changing color/partially open, and 4 dead gonies.
I've convinced myself that I need more flow despite running 900gph through the return with 1/2" RFG's. I've ordered 2 600gph powerheads to combat this and I also made a video of the normal flow here:
That's about all I can think to add at this point. Any Ideas?
I am follow too... Whoever discover that method will be the richest man/woman in the worldJust curious...is anyone out there starting out right out of the gate doing no water changes successfully? If so... I want in!
There is nothting wrong with the tank is too young if you know what you are doing. But there is a huge problem with putting 38 corals into a 30 gal tank which is only 3 months old. You see the different ?There's also thread after thread of people who know what they're doing setting up new tanks, cycling them in days, and throwing in acropora almost immediately, and having success.
Which means "too young" isn't actually the problem in the tanks you're talking about, and saying it is more about just ending discussion.
So rather than just trying to end the discussion, maybe participate in a meaningful way. What do you thing about a "too young" tank is actually the problem?