You really think the divers are ‘highly trained professionals’? if they’ve been doing good since the ban, the only reason to go back to fish collecting is for MORE MONEY!
Yeah in Hawaii I do think they choose highly trained professional divers. I encourage you to look into what collecting fish involves...it's not an easy task especially with the regulations in place...why do you think in some countries they resort to using cyanide? And while they might or might not earn more money collecting fish I imagine they do it partly because they love what they do (that's usually how you get to be a professional). Are you forgetting the MILLIONS of tourists that visit Hawaii every year and that it's an island popular for diving? I'm pretty sure a professional diver isn't suffering jobless in Hawaii.
dang really!? Pre Covid price was like 60 that's more than doubled lol
You’re focusing on the divers, when I also mentioned the shipper/wholesalers… they control the pricing, not to mention the importers here that also like the additional markups!
Ok, you did specifically mention the "Hawaiian divers" so yeah I focused on half of the two groups you mentioned. As for the wholesalers (you didn't mention the shippers in your original post) why do you assume they're an independent company only involved in Hawaiian collected fish instead of part of a bigger company? And even if they did completely have to close down the company, again, this is Hawaii we're talking about...I highly doubt they were jobless this entire time.
No use wasting any more time on this… we can discuss this when and if, the ban is lifted… I don’t expect $150 yellow tangs, from the start. If the demand is there, the sellers will milk it!
I agree. No use wasting more time debating this. For the record I don't expect them to be cheap again either, you're right the sellers will milk it! I just disagreed with your reasoning as to why. People will complain but in the end they'll pay high dollars because that's how the free market works. It actually doesn't affect me in the first place since I'm not in the States so if I wanted a yellow Tang I'd get one way cheaper from somewhere else.
I would say yes in Europe. Many species aren’t CB and in the UK, we really have the short stick compared to the USA. All those nice Captive Bred fish you get over in the US, we don’t get. Not only that but the import of certain wrasses has been banned which limits our species much more now. So the majority of our fish that are brought in are wild caught (Clownfish are the only fish readily available as captive bred, the other CB fish we get are extremely hard to get hold of because it’s often only one every year if not more). Maybe it’s not suffered in America however over here getting your hands on a CB Yellow is extremely hard and when you find one the price is almost the same as a Gem Tang (Neither of which I like).
You'd probably be grateful to have access to yellow tangs like in America even though they're expensive, right? I understand complaints about pricing but when you compare to someone in the UK who doesn't even have the fish available at all price seems rather trivial.
Definitely would!
I personally don't think that simply raising prices would help anything. The only reason I'd support it would be if it went to the collectors in places like Indonesia that get paid very little for long hours and tedious work. We're talking about Hawaii though I know...
I’d love to have an Anampses chrycosephalus, definitely think that Yellow Tangs took the spot light a bit too much.
If you think about it, Captive Bred Fish tend to have more contact with fish in captivity than a wild caught fish will.
Scientific data, no. However I was simply giving a reason for the Australian government's decision. No doubt data exists, I just don't have any. It was certainly something that was discussed when I studied aquaculture at uni.
