ggNoRe
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This time around the dinoflagellates had no effects on the coral. Almost all the visible dinoflagellates stay on the sand. In the past they were much worse and strings would wrap around my rocks and corals causing damage.
Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?
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Posted in my build thread about this but i noticed various tiny spots around my rocks that I believe is the start of dinos. Where it is early enough I think I have a decent shot of eradicating them before they completely engulf my tank. I have shutoff my skimmer and will be removing my carbon when I get home as well as doing a 24hr blackout tomorrow.
Time and time again spending money on extra filtration and being too involved with my tank comes back to bite me in the butt. Honestly as a community should 'the meta' of reefkeeping even be suggested to have skimmers, gfo, and carbon in your tank? Couple those with routine husbandry and you nuke nutrients causing dinos and potentially destroying your tank. Unless you are way overfeeding advanced filtration is completely unnecessary. I wish I had just used a tiny bag of carbon as my only filtration. It is infinitely easier to deal with too much waste than the effects of too little. So frustrating.
Time and time again spending money on extra filtration and being too involved with my tank comes back to bite me in the butt. Honestly as a community should 'the meta' of reefkeeping even be suggested to have skimmers, gfo, and carbon in your tank? Couple those with routine husbandry and you nuke nutrients causing dinos and potentially destroying your tank. Unless you are way overfeeding advanced filtration is completely unnecessary. I wish I had just used a tiny bag of carbon as my only filtration. It is infinitely easier to deal with too much waste than the effects of too little. So frustrating.
Kellie in CA
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I have been dealing with Large cell Amphs forever and I am losing my patience. They are located only on the sandbed. I have tried just about every recommended treatment. It's getting expensive and nothing helps.
UV
Adding fresh pods monthly
Phyto (2x per day for 6 months)
Manual removal every weekend (lost about half my sand in the process)
Microbacter7 - been dosing for 6 months
AquaBiomics rubble for diversity (added 2 weeks ago)
SpongExcel dosing
My Kessils are running almost entirely blue
Blackout days
Temp 80
Alk 8.2
Phos .11
Mag 1230
Cal 386
What am I missing?
UV
Adding fresh pods monthly
Phyto (2x per day for 6 months)
Manual removal every weekend (lost about half my sand in the process)
Microbacter7 - been dosing for 6 months
AquaBiomics rubble for diversity (added 2 weeks ago)
SpongExcel dosing
My Kessils are running almost entirely blue
Blackout days
Temp 80
Alk 8.2
Phos .11
Mag 1230
Cal 386
What am I missing?
ggNoRe
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If I were you as long as they are not harming corals I would do nothing for one month and let them saturate the sand. Then in the night turkey baste them into the overflow and into a filter pad. Then remove the filter pad and do a 2 day blackout. Also the next day start a regimen of phyto and Microbacter dosing without turning the skimmer or uv back on until you turn your lights back on. This is what worked for me.
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Would like some help with ID'ing what this might be.
250g tank ~6 years old
Temp 78.2
Salinity 34.8
pH 8.44
Ca 442
Alk 10.8
Mag 1400
Nitrate 34
Phosphate 0.03
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It's on corals, rock, sand, high flow areas, low flow areas.
Thanks in advance for any help!
I've been running UV from and to the tank directly, vacuuming sand bed, blasting with turkey baster. I've been dosing NeoPhos, but unable to detect any amount of phosphate (Testing with Hanna).
I have removed filter socks and not running skimmer. Should I dose carbon? If so, do I need to run skimmer? Should I be using filter socks?
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ID help. I had beaten dinos a year ago and then everything was good for about 9 months then had crazy hair algae outbreak last November and finally have it beaten only to be replaced by some brown film algae (I hope).
Looks like there are some dinos in the mix but would like some expert eyes on it as the film doesn't look like the dinos I had originally but perhaps only because it's the beginning.
Edit: couple more images. Hard to see but they have a white/clear tip at the point. And do appear to have a circular cell feature in the middle
Looks like there are some dinos in the mix but would like some expert eyes on it as the film doesn't look like the dinos I had originally but perhaps only because it's the beginning.
Edit: couple more images. Hard to see but they have a white/clear tip at the point. And do appear to have a circular cell feature in the middle
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Just looking for confirmation, but pretty sure I'm dealing with ostreopsis mixed in with hair algae - Phos and Nitrate were 0 today, and I assumed the hair algae had eaten it up, but this was from two separate samples of slime that was mixed in with the hair algae, and comparing it with images, it looks an awful lot like ostreopsis.
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MnFish1
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I would raise your Ca and MG (let's say 420 on Ca and 1300 on Mg, and lower your PO4. The problem with 'rules' in aquaria - that offer a fix - seems to fail much of the time because each tank is different. If you want my comments on what you're doing - you're doing too much, this is not meant as an insult - but rather suggestions:
1. Pods do not make a difference with regards to Dinos.
2. Photo does not make a difference with regards to Dinos
3. Manual removal - would move it up to every day - or every other day - when it seems like the Dinos are at their peak.
4. IMHO microbacter 7 will not affect dinos
5. The amount of 'rubble' you added compared to your total tank surface area - is probably not enough (and I wouldn't add more)
6. Not sure why you're using all blue - I would perhaps change that - and I would skip blackout days.
A picture is worth a thousand words. Do you have a picture of your tank? And - I'm sorry if I'm seeming to be critical. I would stop all of the supplements - instead - manually remove (siphon) - the Dinos off - lower your PO4 perhaps increase Ca and Mg a little as said above - and wait. they will go away
Kellie in CA
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Thank you. I've tried every possible remedy recommended to me.
At last check my dinos were Prorocentrum. I'm not sure if they were mis-diagnosed before, or if at some point they shifted. I'm going to look at them under the microscope again this weekend.
Look how happy this guy is
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MnFish1
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I would use a siphoning method - daily. And I would not consider this even a 'moderate' amount of Dinos. If you can use say a python - and then replace with new saltwater daily - my guess is that they will be gone in a couple weeks. Nice Goniopora
I am thinking I have coolia but would like some extra opinions!
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