Worst tank on the planet.
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I think it would. Actually I know it would, but then they will come right back. I really need to get the underlying issue sorted. Which is like what everyone is saying, too many dang chems. Which sounds like a rad party, but not so fun for a reef tank.
Peter Houde
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OMG. I think I'd just throw away the whole tank and buy a new one. Or maybe download a virtual reef tank you can watch on TV or computer.(trigger warning all the algae)
Ok so brand new tank somehow gets byropsis. Since I have no corals I think ok let's treat it. Fluzocole and it's gone. Cool. Nope, now I have what looks like cyano. Ok fine, side effect of fluzocole let's just treat it. Chemiclean doesn't do crap. In fact everything is worse.
It's stingy, makes a sheets, easily removes, doesn't seem to bother livestock, grows on glass, sand, rocks. Grows back after removal within hours. Does not respond to three day blackout.
I went a whole month of no water changes, then one 20% each week. I tried uv.
I am currently dosing nitrates and phosphates to keep them at 10ppm nitrate and phosphate .01-.02 daily. Adding 20mL of MB7 daily, 10mL H2O2, and coral snow 15mL. Changing socks daily, and cleaning skimmer twice a day. No change so far.
I suck so bad at this. I'm keep trying and just keep fing it all up. At least I don't have corals. So I have what appears to be white turf algae, it doesn't come off like the rest of this stuff and it's getting blasted by the mp40. I also have about five specs of cotton candy algae that just appeared today. And what I think might be dinos? I don't know.
I don't have my microscope. I tried an experiment. One cup tank water each cup with a chunk of this algae. First is control, then I tried dinox in one cup, algae fix in another, fluzocole in another. All four algae chunks looked the same. Nothing changed. This stuff also clings to your arm hair if you put you arm in the tank. It's almost like this brown gunk is dead. But it's not. I'm at a loss.
SO JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL!
Here is some algae **** for you.
Oh and we are fostering this thing. I'm told he is cat. His name is Paws. On Monday his leg is getting removed. So he will then be a Tri Paw. See what I did there? Hopefully someone will want a cat with three legs.
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After failing for 26 years I think so. I have proof I was successful for roughly half that time.
Reefer Brent
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I went through a lot of the same stuff for a year. This was my first salt tank. I think the biggest help was decreasing the size of my water changes to 10% every week to 2 weeks. Scrubbing my rocks in the dirty tank water buckets when they would get really hairy. Copepods. Large trochus snails. Nassarius snails. Changing my floss daily and finally got a decent protein skimmer. I did do very small dose of mb7 once a week. Less is more there. Switched to kalk ato as well but not sure if that helped any.
clownaround4giggles
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Sometimes the first tank just isn’t the best. In my experience, starting over after a crash is the best experience to treat your knowledge. My first tank:(trigger warning all the algae)
Ok so brand new tank somehow gets byropsis. Since I have no corals I think ok let's treat it. Fluzocole and it's gone. Cool. Nope, now I have what looks like cyano. Ok fine, side effect of fluzocole let's just treat it. Chemiclean doesn't do crap. In fact everything is worse.
It's stingy, makes a sheets, easily removes, doesn't seem to bother livestock, grows on glass, sand, rocks. Grows back after removal within hours. Does not respond to three day blackout.
I went a whole month of no water changes, then one 20% each week. I tried uv.
I am currently dosing nitrates and phosphates to keep them at 10ppm nitrate and phosphate .01-.02 daily. Adding 20mL of MB7 daily, 10mL H2O2, and coral snow 15mL. Changing socks daily, and cleaning skimmer twice a day. No change so far.
I suck so bad at this. I'm keep trying and just keep fing it all up. At least I don't have corals. So I have what appears to be white turf algae, it doesn't come off like the rest of this stuff and it's getting blasted by the mp40. I also have about five specs of cotton candy algae that just appeared today. And what I think might be dinos? I don't know.
I don't have my microscope. I tried an experiment. One cup tank water each cup with a chunk of this algae. First is control, then I tried dinox in one cup, algae fix in another, fluzocole in another. All four algae chunks looked the same. Nothing changed. This stuff also clings to your arm hair if you put you arm in the tank. It's almost like this brown gunk is dead. But it's not. I'm at a loss.
SO JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL!
Here is some algae **** for you.
Oh and we are fostering this thing. I'm told he is cat. His name is Paws. On Monday his leg is getting removed. So he will then be a Tri Paw. See what I did there? Hopefully someone will want a cat with three legs.
Then my second and running tank that took about 2 weeks for my personal knowledge to get rid of the ugly phase Dino’s!:
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The fact everyone thinks this is my first tank tells me I should probably get out of the hobby.
Septurn
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You're right.You need to stop using chemicals. As you can tell, they only make things worse.
I would syphon as much as possible what is on the sand, take the rocks out and brush them in tank water (you don’y want to kill your live rock), and do a big water change. Then dim your lights for a while, maybe 30% (assuming you don’t have any corals). In time, you will turn them back up gradually.
Then, just observe what is going on. Give it time. Keep dosing bacteria, add lots of copepods and a bit of phytoplankton. See what happens, and whatever does, find natural ways to help it go away.
This takes time. Breathe and relax.
Dinos went away for me once I hit 82.
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Did they stay gone?
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I emailed because I will not do the hold for pickup. In my area it comes from the hub which is the airport to the local hub which is the last stop for the day on the other side of town which makes hold for pickup obsolete. We get freight all day long from Fed Ex ground and express. So it is better to just deliver directly, also we are one of the first drops of the day bright and early at 8am.
Sometimes I wish I lived in Florida.
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Indo Pacific seems to be a bust. At least they have no one on the email side to answer questions. I'm going to send them one more email then give up.
Edit: The Tampa Bay sounds amazing but shipping is insane, of course, and I have to go and pick it up which is a 2 hour drive. Yeah, no. Now shipping directly to my shop, worth it.
Edit: The Tampa Bay sounds amazing but shipping is insane, of course, and I have to go and pick it up which is a 2 hour drive. Yeah, no. Now shipping directly to my shop, worth it.
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Heads up Indo Pacific does not respond to emails. At all. They have a pre written excuse on the website for taking a long time to do anything, which is time change, and we are a small business. Yeah me too buddy but I respond to emails at least within 24 hours, and we get product out this door as soon as it hits the floor.
I ordered a new microscope even though I have one, but I am discouraged. Even with the scope people can not come to an agreement on treatment. I have a few hints though. When I was dosing nitrate and phosphate to 10 to 1 I noticed a huge deduction of it on the sand. I think I also have GHA mixed in as well. So we will see.
I ordered a new microscope even though I have one, but I am discouraged. Even with the scope people can not come to an agreement on treatment. I have a few hints though. When I was dosing nitrate and phosphate to 10 to 1 I noticed a huge deduction of it on the sand. I think I also have GHA mixed in as well. So we will see.
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