What's more important or comes first when battling dinos: getting nutrients up from zero, or adding beneficial bacteria??

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[rishma]

If adding Bacter 7, the dino can be come back after few weeks or months, that's what i've observed, avoid this horrible thing,
And in LED lighting tank, the percentage of having dinos is so high to compare with T5/MH tank,
in zeolite system, the chance of having dinos are so low to compare with others.

I know this comment was from earlier in the week but I’d argue the light source is not related. I could be wrong, of course.

To be clear, I never had dinos in my MH days, but I also didn’t have grey hair. I don’t think my leds caused the grey hair either . During my MH days all my rock came from the waters off of Fiji, I had little/no GFO and no carbon dosing, and no way to test phosphates in the ppb range or any inclination to try. I battled to keep nutrients down. Nitrate and phosphate were never too low.

I think the coincidence of dinos and LEDs is just that, coincidence.

 

[Dan_P]

For those who want to know my progress, the only change I made was adding the 15w UV and ghost feeding flakes. Dinos are 90% gone and starting to see some hair algae, which is good in this case I think. The ghost feeding was because I had an emerald crab die, but is serving to increase nutrients and my torches love it. I didn’t know the crab was in the tank. Again, this is a bare bottom 40g frag tank with live rock and snails only.

Since you made two changes, we can’t conclude what fixed the system.

The ghost feeding seems to be increasing inorganic nitrogen based on the return of green algae. I wonder if it was the increase in bacteria growth from ghost feeding that helped the torches.

Thanks for the update. Will be interested in hearing whether cyanobacteria starts to accumulate next.

 

[rhaetuluscrenatus]

I know this comment was from earlier in the week but I’d argue the light source is not related. I could be wrong, of course.

To be clear, I never had dinos in my MH days, but I also didn’t have grey hair. I don’t think my leds caused the grey hair either . During my MH days all my rock came from the waters off of Fiji, I had little/no GFO and no carbon dosing, and no way to test phosphates in the ppb range or any inclination to try. I battled to keep nutrients down. Nitrate and phosphate were never too low.

I think the coincidence of dinos and LEDs is just that, coincidence.

Infact it's not the problem of rock, i have few friends, their tanks have deadrock and composite rock only, but they're using MH and never having problems of dino. So that's why i'm sticking the clue with lighting to dino then.

 

[rishma]

Infact it's not the problem of rock, i have few friends, their tanks have deadrock and composite rock only, but they're using MH and never having problems of dino. So that's why i'm sticking the clue with lighting to dino then.

We will sort of agree to disagree, then. Dry rock alone doesn’t cause dinos. Lots of tanks use dry rock and don’t end up with dinos. On the other hand, reduced diversity of bacteria etc, coupled with very very low nutrients does tend to make dinos more likely.

Don’t get me wrong, if it wasn’t for the heat and electricity I’d still have a radium over my tank. Still my favorite light. There are lots of issues with leds. I just don’t think dinos is one of them.

Cheers.