What has caused this with my euphyllia?

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I think its vibrant. For starters, If you have leather corals, this may be part of the issue. Many leather coral species produce and release toxic chemicals, called terpenes, into the water to protect themselves and to stunt the growth of other species. One of the biggest problems I have seen beginner hobbyists have is failing to account for the calcium demand for these corals. If there is insufficient calcium in your aquarium water, these corals will not be able to make their coral skeleton. You should also never lift a torch coral out of the water if you can avoid it. You could tear the polyps, and torn polyps are prone to infection followed by necrosis
Torch require typical parameters including a temperature around 78 degrees, a specific gravity of about 1.025, ph of about 8.2, and a calcium level of about 400 ppm. Like most large polyp stony corals, a torch coral benefits from moderate water flow. The polyps will remain retracted and under-inflated if the water current is too fast because the large flowing polyps are prone to rip and tear in high or ultra-high current environments.
The torch coral is a photosynthetic coral, meaning it has a relationship with symbiotic zooxanthellae (single-cell photosynthetic organisms) that live inside its tissues that converts the light energy into sugar. In exchange for a home inside the coral, the zooxanthellae split their harvest and feed the coral. Therefore, it is possible to keep the Torch coral without any feeding at all. However, all corals are animals, and animals are meant to eat.
The best placement for a torch coral is in a location that gets moderate water flow and moderate-intensity lighting. Torches are aggressive corals that protect themselves by wielding their sweeper tentacles maliciously. Sweeper tentacles are specialized tentacles that extend much larger than the typical tentacles and are equipped with stinging cells. Torches will send out these long tendrils to zap anything nearby within reach.
 
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While I still suspect the vibrant started this, cupro will be your best bet to rid the tank of the bad bacteria that had made it a home.
What is Cipro? I'm in the UK will it be available here? How come there is bad bacteria in my Vibrant? Dodgy bottle or just how Vibrant is?
 
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I think its vibrant. For starters, If you have leather corals, this may be part of the issue. Many leather coral species produce and release toxic chemicals, called terpenes, into the water to protect themselves and to stunt the growth of other species. One of the biggest problems I have seen beginner hobbyists have is failing to account for the calcium demand for these corals. If there is insufficient calcium in your aquarium water, these corals will not be able to make their coral skeleton. You should also never lift a torch coral out of the water if you can avoid it. You could tear the polyps, and torn polyps are prone to infection followed by necrosis
Torch require typical parameters including a temperature around 78 degrees, a specific gravity of about 1.025, ph of about 8.2, and a calcium level of about 400 ppm. Like most large polyp stony corals, a torch coral benefits from moderate water flow. The polyps will remain retracted and under-inflated if the water current is too fast because the large flowing polyps are prone to rip and tear in high or ultra-high current environments.
The torch coral is a photosynthetic coral, meaning it has a relationship with symbiotic zooxanthellae (single-cell photosynthetic organisms) that live inside its tissues that converts the light energy into sugar. In exchange for a home inside the coral, the zooxanthellae split their harvest and feed the coral. Therefore, it is possible to keep the Torch coral without any feeding at all. However, all corals are animals, and animals are meant to eat.
The best placement for a torch coral is in a location that gets moderate water flow and moderate-intensity lighting. Torches are aggressive corals that protect themselves by wielding their sweeper tentacles maliciously. Sweeper tentacles are specialized tentacles that extend much larger than the typical tentacles and are equipped with stinging cells. Torches will send out these long tendrils to zap anything nearby within reach.
I checked my parameters yesterday due to this issue being a thing, everything is in check 0 phosphate 5 nitrates 8dkh 8.2ph 35ppt 26 Celsius and about 480 calcium. I do not test anything else, the polyp had completely bailed this morning with no real sign of necrosis or slime, this is the flow that my torch was in, I don't think it's high at all, I've seen torches in 10 x higher flow
 

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Hey! Sorry to bother you again, can a bailed head regrow a skeleton?
Some say it can and I believe somewhere it's documented once or twice.

There is someone on here that has a hammer that bailed almost 1 year ago and the head is healing and forming something on the base. I'll have to search for that thread.

I have never personally had one grow back the skeleton.

It's worth keeping the head if it is alive in a small Tupperware with a mesh lid in a low flow low light area....if this is possible.

How long will it survive? Who really knows, but it would be interesting to see if you can get it to calcify again.

Again sorry this happened :(
 
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Some say it can and I believe somewhere it's documented once or twice.

There is someone on here that has a hammer that bailed almost 1 year ago and the head is healing and forming something on the base. I'll have to search for that thread.

I have never personally had one grow back the skeleton.

It's worth keeping the head if it is alive in a small Tupperware with a mesh lid in a low flow low light area....if this is possible.

How long will it survive? Who really knows, but it would be interesting to see if you can get it to calcify again.

Again sorry this happened :(
I've got it in a glass, it's more inflated that when it was detaching and it's flat not rolled up or anything, getting plenty of light, so we'll just have to see and apologise to my mum as she won't be getting that glass back anytime soon
 
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I've got it in a glass, it's more inflated that when it was detaching and it's flat not rolled up or anything, getting plenty of light, so we'll just have to see and apologise to my mum as she won't be getting that glass back anytime soon
Lost a frogspawn this morning and looks like the other heads on that same torch are on they way out aswell :(
 

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Sorry new here.just following incase something down road like this happens to me.sorry things going wrong and hope you get to bottom of it buddy.
I hear often phospate at 0 can be a problem and you say you got 0 phosphate.just a observation and have no clue of anything to do with this at all ^_^
 

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Just did quick google search on cipro.
Seems you need prescription.
If this is the case then im prezuming you need ring around vets that deal with fish/ corals if there is any idk and ask if could speak with vet on phone to discuss your options.
Or try get a more experienced guy on here from the uk to see what they say about getting cipro if that's something your considering.
I also see there is some online places that do it but for corals idk
 
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Sorry new here.just following incase something down road like this happens to me.sorry things going wrong and hope you get to bottom of it buddy.
I hear often phospate at 0 can be a problem and you say you got 0 phosphate.just a observation and have no clue of anything to do with this at all ^_^
Yeah it's just the testing system I use they don't go ultra low, but from my nitrates i'm assuming they'll be around 0.05 -0.1
 
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Just did quick google search on cipro.
Seems you need prescription.
If this is the case then im prezuming you need ring around vets that deal with fish/ corals if there is any idk and ask if could speak with vet on phone to discuss your options.
Or try get a more experienced guy on here from the uk to see what they say about getting cipro if that's something your considering.
I also see there is some online places that do it but for corals idk
Thanks for this!I'll just have a look around and see what people say
 

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Says its amocacylin.
Couldnt you just add tablets we get from doctors.i lots boxes amocacylin if could find dose.
I know vets give same anti- biotics to my dog as i get just a lower dose as goes in body size just like an adult gets more than a kid etc.
Just a thought if its exactly same thing then why not?
Edit= the shipping just as much as the product to get to the uk and could take 3 weeks possibly ha ha

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Just had a thought, could the stagnant water of my atom be causing this issue? I have it in an open tub next to my sump so, I top it up roughly once a week and it just sits there until it's used, I was just looking at it and it looks sort of similar to when you leave a glass lying around anit gammy and white...
 
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Just had a thought, could the stagnant water of my atom be causing this issue? I have it in an open tub next to my sump so, I top it up roughly once a week and it just sits there until it's used, I was just looking at it and it looks sort of similar to when you leave a glass lying around anit gammy and white...
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