What color is your salt?

Peace River

Thrive Master
View Badges
Joined
Apr 29, 2014
Messages
21,631
Reaction score
165,374
Location
USA
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
I installed a water mixing station recently using two 65g Norwesco tanks and a Varios 6 pump. I use Instant Ocean Reef Crystals salt and regularly recirculate the mixed saltwater so that it will flow through a filter sock. Although not a surprise, I thought y’all may find it interesting to see the color of the sock after about two months. Remember, only fresh, “clean” saltwater flows through this sock!

ADCB8348-BE2D-4ECB-83BF-4F9889DF72D3.jpeg
 

MERKEY

Cronies
View Badges
Joined
Oct 5, 2019
Messages
9,741
Reaction score
47,172
Location
Washington
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
I installed a water mixing station recently using two 65g Norwesco tanks and a Varios 6 pump. I use Instant Ocean Reef Crystals salt and regularly recirculate the mixed saltwater so that it will flow through a filter sock. Although not a surprise, I thought y’all may find it interesting to see the color of the sock after about two months. Remember, only fresh, “clean” saltwater flows through this sock!

ADCB8348-BE2D-4ECB-83BF-4F9889DF72D3.jpeg
Going to have to try this now!
 

Randy Holmes-Farley

Reef Chemist
View Badges
Joined
Sep 5, 2014
Messages
72,100
Reaction score
69,741
Location
Massachusetts, United States
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
IO uses a binder or caking agent, that’s what you’re seeing

Do they? How do you know that is what is being seen?

I was once told by someone who should know at the company making it that neither Reef crystals not normal IO used any-caking agents.
 

Randy Holmes-Farley

Reef Chemist
View Badges
Joined
Sep 5, 2014
Messages
72,100
Reaction score
69,741
Location
Massachusetts, United States
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
FWIW, i suspect, but do not know, that the brown stuff folks always get with Reef Crystals (and never with normal IO) is due to the vitamins and other organics (e.g., metal chelators) added to that mix.
 

vetteguy53081

Well known Member and monster tank lover
View Badges
Joined
Aug 11, 2013
Messages
96,707
Reaction score
215,505
Location
Wisconsin -
Rating - 100%
15   0   0
I installed a water mixing station recently using two 65g Norwesco tanks and a Varios 6 pump. I use Instant Ocean Reef Crystals salt and regularly recirculate the mixed saltwater so that it will flow through a filter sock. Although not a surprise, I thought y’all may find it interesting to see the color of the sock after about two months. Remember, only fresh, “clean” saltwater flows through this sock!

ADCB8348-BE2D-4ECB-83BF-4F9889DF72D3.jpeg
Many reefers do mention of a brown residue in their buckets and this is the minerals which they refer to
 

ZoWhat

10K Club member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 23, 2014
Messages
10,270
Reaction score
18,007
Location
Cincinnati Ohio
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
My guess its Calcium Carbonate bonding over time (particulate fallout) which i believe has a light brown shade to it when its not lab grade....meaning not chemically rinsed to be bottled as pure white CaCO3 from a Lab Mfgr

Could also be dirt-dust in the air bonding to the CaCO3
 
Last edited:

homer1475

Figuring out the hobby one coral at a time.
View Badges
Joined
Apr 24, 2018
Messages
11,820
Reaction score
18,897
Location
Way upstate NY
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Ever since viewing the video BRS did about running NSW through a sediment filter, I've been doing just that for a few months now.

I was very surprised by how quickly the filter turned brown, and I run regular old purple box IO. But now my mixing barrels are super clean with no brown residue left over.
 

Randy Holmes-Farley

Reef Chemist
View Badges
Joined
Sep 5, 2014
Messages
72,100
Reaction score
69,741
Location
Massachusetts, United States
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
My guess its Calcium Carbonate bonding over time (particulate fallout) which i believe has a light brown shade to it when its not lab grade....meaning not chemically rinsed to be bottled as pure white CaCO3 from a Lab Mfgr

Could also be dirt-dust in the air bonding to the CaCO3

Normal IO and Coral Reef Pro both precipitate calcium carbonate, but never like the brown stuff that precipitates from Reef Crystals. it is more tan to white, typically:

What is that Precipitate in My Reef Aquarium? by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

Figure 1. The residue on the bottom of the plastic trash can that I use to mix Instant Ocean. I rarely clean it out. The solid is most likely calcium carbonate.​


1612210172367.png
 

AZMSGT

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
May 6, 2019
Messages
3,988
Reaction score
7,897
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I have had TMP and RS salt both get brown gunk in it. I mix in a 65g Norwesco tank.

Tried both, cleaned the tank between each didn’t matter.
 

Rubberfrog

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 14, 2021
Messages
918
Reaction score
2,017
Location
Phoenix metro
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
FWIW, i suspect, but do not know, that the brown stuff folks always get with Reef Crystals (and never with normal IO) is due to the vitamins and other organics (e.g., metal chelators) added to that mix.
Since I have zero chemistry background to qualify this, I wanted to add-in that I too suspect this to be the cause.
 
Last edited:

SPR1968

No, it wasn’t expensive dear....
View Badges
Joined
Feb 21, 2017
Messages
20,092
Reaction score
124,932
Location
Nottinghamshire England
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I use the Red Sea standard salt Bruce, my fresh saltwater tank has the same brown film, it’s like a biofilm or something and needs cleaning occasionally. Well about every year!
 
OP
OP
Peace River

Peace River

Thrive Master
View Badges
Joined
Apr 29, 2014
Messages
21,631
Reaction score
165,374
Location
USA
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
@Peace River could you share some pics of how you have sock set up please? Also, what micron sock are you using?

Here are pictures of the PVC "hanger" with and without the filter sock. These two pieces of PVC are glued together and this slips (without glue) on to the PVC pipe that goes horizontally through a uniseal in the outside of the polyethylene container. I'm sure that there are different (and probably better ways) to do this, but this has been working so far. To make the "hook" I drilled a hole and then cut a wide straight notch to connect to the hole so that the sock can easily be added and removed.

6EA601FE-3A10-46A6-9456-114178DEF5EA.jpeg


B4002BB5-FB36-42D9-A430-D63D17A30C63.jpeg
 
OP
OP
Peace River

Peace River

Thrive Master
View Badges
Joined
Apr 29, 2014
Messages
21,631
Reaction score
165,374
Location
USA
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
Here is a picture of the mixing station where you can see the horizontal pipe going into the 65g Norwesco tank, the #Varios 6 control, and the #Hydros 2 controller:

EA32ACAA-8E20-4738-8F1E-A9A0D0C0AF7A.jpeg
 

sp1187

bird flu antidote
View Badges
Joined
Aug 4, 2017
Messages
13,349
Reaction score
69,080
Location
the duck blind
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Normal IO and Coral Reef Pro both precipitate calcium carbonate, but never like the brown stuff that precipitates from Reef Crystals. it is more tan to white, typically:

What is that Precipitate in My Reef Aquarium? by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

Figure 1. The residue on the bottom of the plastic trash can that I use to mix Instant Ocean. I rarely clean it out. The solid is most likely calcium carbonate.​


1612210172367.png
hey... how did you get a pic of the bottom of my Brut mixer?
 

HAVE YOU EVER KEPT A RARE/UNCOMMON FISH, CORAL, OR INVERT? SHOW IT OFF IN THE THREAD!

  • Yes!

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 3 4.3%
Back
Top