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Where did you get the lobster eggs? When you make the mix, you keep it in the fridge? How long does it keep?
I got the lobster eggs from my LFS, the brand is Ocean Nutrition, not sure if you have that in the US.

My mix usually keeps for about 2-3 weeks in the freezer, I keep 1 or 2 cubes of each food in containers and defrost them the day I need them. After that, they keep for about 4 or 5 days in the fridge in an airtight container.
 

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I need more wrasse in my life.

I only have a Yellow Coris (Halichoeres Chrysus according to google), and a Cleaner Wrasse (Labroides Dimidiatus apparently).
Sometimes I see some nice examples in some of my LFS (there were a few different leopard wrasse, Melanarus & a nice big Red Coris & even a fair wrasse), but I always hesitate with potentially purchasing because I worry about adding one that'd cause problems with existing inhabitants.

Probably need to spend some good time studying that Wrasse Guy chart even though I think there's some types missing?
As long as the species you add are from these genera;
Halichoeres - specifically, species of the Biochoeres and Hemiulus groups are better suited whilst the Platyglossus group is less likely to get along with other species.

Cirrhilabrus - avoid the Scottorum and Filamentosus complex generally.

Anampses - if your tank is 4’ or larger as these can get large.

Macropharyngodon - These can require more specified care but they aren’t all too hard and don’t mix species like Kuiteri and Moyeri together
Xenojulis - again, similar care to the leopards with difficulty.
 

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Rhomboid usually doesn’t let me take photos, but her interest in seeing if I had more food let me take a few of her color/fins as they continue to change.

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I nearly got one of these a few weeks ago, I decided to pass though. Still looking for a wrasse to ‘replace’ my Coral Beauty and probably to trade in my Chloropterus for 2 other small Halichoeres species (maybe another Radiant).
 

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Looking to add a black leopard wrasse to my 75 gallon

anyone have any experience? Or recommend something else?
Honestly, if you have cared for leopards previously, go for it. However if you haven’t cared for them yet, get an established one that isn’t fresh in the hobby and feeds vigorously.
These can take time to establish into a new tank and I agree with a 2x a day feedings or if you can, cram as many nutrients as you can into one feeding and you may get away with it. This will boost phosphates/nitrates but in the long term, it’s worth it.

If you want another species that’s not so hard to own, go for a Blue Star (Macropharyngodon bipartitus/marisrubri). These are easier overall the easiest species out there IME. You could also try a Meleagris which is another very easy leopard. Then once you get the idea of their care, go for a black leopard or other species (you can quite easily mix most species of leopard wrasse). This is my Bipartitus when she was maybe .5” long.
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Another route you could go for the easier care is Halichoeres lapillus or Xenojulis margaritaceus. They have a similar body shape to Leopards but seem to cope better in the aquarium than other species do. They have similar care to a Leopard its just toned down a bit IME. I wish I had a decent photo of my Xenojulis but she is the worst with photos.
 

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Imo a yellw wrasse is as nice as a yellow tang - and the price is juicy in comparision.
I would say they look nicer than a yellow tang. The eyespots on a female are really pretty and the multicolored cheeks a male gets can really glow in the right light. Though TBH I don’t really like monochromatic fish. Give me a radiant over a yellow any day.

I think it is inarguable that the gem tang isn’t as pretty as the “dotted” tamarins. A melanarus, A meleagrides, and A lineatus, and of course is not even remotely close to A chrysocephlus.

A gem tang
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A melanarus
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A meleagrides
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A lineatus
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A chrysocephalus
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Uggg I hate the Hawaii ban….

Point is with maybe one exception for every tang there is a prettier wrasse. :face-with-tears-of-joy:
 

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I would say they look nicer than a yellow tang. The eyespots on a female are really pretty and the multicolored cheeks a male gets can really glow in the right light. Though TBH I don’t really like monochromatic fish. Give me a radiant over a yellow any day.

I think it is inarguable that the gem tang isn’t as pretty as the “dotted” tamarins. A melanarus, A meleagrides, and A lineatus, and of course is not even remotely close to A chrysocephlus.

A gem tang
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A melanarus
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A meleagrides
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A lineatus
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A chrysocephalus
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Uggg I hate the Hawaii ban….

Point is with maybe one exception for every tang there is a prettier wrasse. :face-with-tears-of-joy:
I totally agree!
But you know theres a wife.. and she always tell me that the body shape of a tang or an angel is what is attractive to her. See does not like the body shape of wrasses as usually they are just long and thin.

Can you feel my pain?
 

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I nearly got one of these a few weeks ago, I decided to pass though. Still looking for a wrasse to ‘replace’ my Coral Beauty and probably to trade in my Chloropterus for 2 other small Halichoeres species (maybe another Radiant).

You should get one. The only downside of the rhomboid is that the pictures never do it justice!

And I’m about to evict my coral beauty. I don’t know why I still haven’t learned my lesson on these guys after all these years.
 

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I totally agree!
But you know theres a wife.. and she always tell me that the body shape of a tang or an angel is what is attractive to her. See does not like the body shape of wrasses as usually they are just long and thin.

Can you feel my pain?
She likes big fish and she cannot lie?
 

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Guys, how does it end if I add a Yellow Coris Wrasse H. chrysus to an already established H. melanurus?
Just want to be sure they wont get aggressive towards eachother.
Honestly, it’s likely to go downhill as generally the Platyglossus complex doesn’t get along with other wrasses. It would work if you added the Mel in with the Chrysus as the Biocellatus group is peaceful with other wrasses.

I am not adding those small wrasses anymore (Pink-Streaked and Yellow Banded Possum Wrasse).
My plan now is to add a Yellow “Pig” Wrasse (Halichoeres chrysus), a Royal Gramma and a Longnose Hawkfish.
The Longnose Hawkfish should be the last one?
Don’t, that wrasse will quickly outgrow that tank. And if you did, you’d want to have that as the only fish to keep more swim room out there.
 

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As long as the species you add are from these genera;
Halichoeres - specifically, species of the Biochoeres and Hemiulus groups are better suited whilst the Platyglossus group is less likely to get along with other species.

Cirrhilabrus - avoid the Scottorum and Filamentosus complex generally.

Anampses - if your tank is 4’ or larger as these can get large.

Macropharyngodon - These can require more specified care but they aren’t all too hard and don’t mix species like Kuiteri and Moyeri together
Xenojulis - again, similar care to the leopards with difficulty.

Doing a very quick google, the Halichoeres wrasse do look interesting. Have always liked the Melanarus & more recently discovered the Radiant. These are two I'd like to add. I'm assuming that should be okay with the Yellow ?
Will they kill off my snails much ? I noticed the yellow or cleaner will have a go at nessarius snails but the trochus and cowrie's have been okay so far (unless a trochus is upside down then I'm sure they'd go it but I've not seen this).

At some point I'd like to add a cleaner shrimp or something of decent size (I've also got a flame hawkfish so I know smaller shrimp are likely to be expensive meals), how do these wrasse usually go with these also? It's not the end of the world if I don't have a shrimp but always thought it might be cool.

It's probably a loaded question but do you possibly have any other suggestions of specific fairy or flasher wrasse or other types of wrasse I could mix in or would be worth me looking into that might be popular choices etc ?
Tank is 6ft.

Thanks for your info, been trying to learn more about these fish and get used to the scientific names etc.
 

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Doing a very quick google, the Halichoeres wrasse do look interesting. Have always liked the Melanarus & more recently discovered the Radiant. These are two I'd like to add. I'm assuming that should be okay with the Yellow ?
The melanarus is more aggressive but could work if added later. I would suggest a dusky/margined H marginatus. It is my favorite Halichoeres and somewhat similar to a melanarus in pattern.
Will they kill off my snails much ? I noticed the yellow or cleaner will have a go at nessarius snails but the trochus and cowrie's have been okay so far (unless a trochus is upside down then I'm sure they'd go it but I've not seen this).
I’ve not lost snails to wrasse. Nassarius usually come out after they’re asleep and not seen mine go after any others.
At some point I'd like to add a cleaner shrimp or something of decent size (I've also got a flame hawkfish so I know smaller shrimp are likely to be expensive meals), how do these wrasse usually go with these also? It's not the end of the world if I don't have a shrimp but always thought it might be cool.
I have had a flame for two years and though I’m on my second skunk they have never been harassed by wrasse and I believe my first skunk just died of old age. Smaller shrimp might be eaten though. Like sexy.
It's probably a loaded question but do you possibly have any other suggestions of specific fairy or flasher wrasse or other types of wrasse I could mix in or would be worth me looking into that might be popular choices etc ?
Tank is 6ft.
Google these fairies. I circled the groups I suggest and highlighted some of my favorites.
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Thanks for your info, been trying to learn more about these fish and get used to the scientific names etc.
 

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The melanarus is more aggressive but could work if added later. I would suggest a dusky/margined H marginatus. It is my favorite Halichoeres and somewhat similar to a melanarus in pattern.

I’ve not lost snails to wrasse. Nassarius usually come out after they’re asleep and not seen mine go after any others.

I have had a flame for two years and though I’m on my second skunk they have never been harassed by wrasse and I believe my first skunk just died of old age. Smaller shrimp might be eaten though. Like sexy.

Google these fairies. I circled the groups I suggest and highlighted some of my favorites.
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Appreciate the suggestions.
Doubt that I would do this but just so I'm clear, I could technically get one wrasse from each of these separate groups and should be okay aggression wise ?

I've had a Naoko's previously for a short time, I really liked the colour but I lost it due to it jumping :( . I've since made sure my tanks have nets.

Some great examples in there for sure. I'll have a chat with my gf to see if there's any that really grab her also !
 

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Appreciate the suggestions.
Doubt that I would do this but just so I'm clear, I could technically get one wrasse from each of these separate groups and should be okay aggression wise ?
Yep!
 

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Doing a very quick google, the Halichoeres wrasse do look interesting. Have always liked the Melanarus & more recently discovered the Radiant. These are two I'd like to add. I'm assuming that should be okay with the Yellow ?
Avoid the Melanurus if I’m honest, although they could work its unlikely and the Mel will become fairly boisterous towards other wrasses. As I’ve said in previous posts, you want to avoid the Platyglossus group when mixing Halichoeres and stick to the Biochoeres group or Hemiulis group. These two generally have more peaceful species that will happily coexist with others - The Iridis is one from the Biochoeres group.
Will they kill off my snails much ? I noticed the yellow or cleaner will have a go at nessarius snails but the trochus and cowrie's have been okay so far (unless a trochus is upside down then I'm sure they'd go it but I've not seen this).
At some point I'd like to add a cleaner shrimp or something of decent size (I've also got a flame hawkfish so I know smaller shrimp are likely to be expensive meals), how do these wrasse usually go with these also? It's not the end of the world if I don't have a shrimp but always thought it might be cool.
I’ve had 10-11 shrimp in with wrasses at seperate times, currently I have 8 shrimp in with wrasses (3 in one tank with a leopard and 5 in my other tank with my main gang). I’ve never seen them being eaten unless they have already passed from old age. Cleaner and Fire Shrimp tend to be ignored due to their role (a fish will usually know if a shrimp has a role to the reef and their role is to clean the fish). As for the snails, I’ve not had much of an issue - my main issue is that my snails love to fall upside down. Again, species from the Platyglossus group are more likely to go for inverts.
It's probably a loaded question but do you possibly have any other suggestions of specific fairy or flasher wrasse or other types of wrasse I could mix in or would be worth me looking into that might be popular choices etc ?
Tank is 6ft.
As Slocke said above, those complexes are best to mix, however on the whole almost any complex can be mixed together, just avoid the species from the Scottorum and Filamentosus groups.
I’d also add in a couple Paracheilinus species to truly get the lights going at night! Some personal favourites of mine are;
- Carpenteri
- Attenuatus
- Piscilineatus
- Amanda
- Rubricaudalis
Thanks for your info, been trying to learn more about these fish and get used to the scientific names etc.
No problem! Just hang around here and you’ll learn many scientific names :)
 

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Not the best photos ever but my DT was in display again earlier.
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Without a doubt, this is one fish I’ll always want and would happily buy even with the price tag. They just have a personality like no other.
Which wrasse is this?
 

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Avoid the Melanurus if I’m honest, although they could work its unlikely and the Mel will become fairly boisterous towards other wrasses. As I’ve said in previous posts, you want to avoid the Platyglossus group when mixing Halichoeres and stick to the Biochoeres group or Hemiulis group. These two generally have more peaceful species that will happily coexist with others - The Iridis is one from the Biochoeres group.

I’ve had 10-11 shrimp in with wrasses at seperate times, currently I have 8 shrimp in with wrasses (3 in one tank with a leopard and 5 in my other tank with my main gang). I’ve never seen them being eaten unless they have already passed from old age. Cleaner and Fire Shrimp tend to be ignored due to their role (a fish will usually know if a shrimp has a role to the reef and their role is to clean the fish). As for the snails, I’ve not had much of an issue - my main issue is that my snails love to fall upside down. Again, species from the Platyglossus group are more likely to go for inverts.

As Slocke said above, those complexes are best to mix, however on the whole almost any complex can be mixed together, just avoid the species from the Scottorum and Filamentosus groups.
I’d also add in a couple Paracheilinus species to truly get the lights going at night! Some personal favourites of mine are;
- Carpenteri
- Attenuatus
- Piscilineatus
- Amanda
- Rubricaudalis

No problem! Just hang around here and you’ll learn many scientific names :)
Do you have a good source for Halichoeres species by group?
 

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In looking for whatever I can’t think is using for Halichoeres wrasse I saw why evolved/the wrasse guy left the forum. Disappointed in the leaders of this forum and it’s a shame he’s not here on this thread. Could really use his knowledge.
 

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