That’s incredible… I’ve only heard good things so I’m going to try it. This tank was moved so sand is about 3-4 mths old but tank around 4 years. I still have a diatom bloom and some dinos but not many…. Crossing my fingers!!!
You can potentially get a pest or disease. Probably uncommon but not impossible.
They pull it out of the ocean and ship it to you, you want them to rip sponge off each rock that might have it? If you don’t want real liverock with actual organisms on it, buy that purple BS that places sell that’s they call live rock.
Howdy,
If you order rubble specifically for a canister, let us know this in the order notes because we can send the smallest sized rubble.
Rubble is more expensive because it is very time consuming to harvest.
A Rock and Sand combination is the most beneficial because you receive microorganisms that specifically live in the sand and others that live specifically in rock.
We've had many customers win the dino battle by adding the Sand & Rox box, all their tanks were 30 gallons and smaller. There are different dinos, so I am not saying it is 100% cure, only that it has worked for some of our customers.
Well said.If I'm not mistaken, each of their products are sourced from the same location (or very close). They will all likely have the same bacteria and micro-fauna. What will change is the amount/type of larger fauna. For example, you are VERY UNLIKELY to get macro algae, mantis shrimps, crabs and large sponges with a sand order. You are much MORE likely to get those with the premium live rock.
The premium is more for displays than sumps. So is the sand (which is what I got). If you're putting it in your fuge, I'd go with the rubble. No sense in getting the premium when much of it will die in a sump. You'll get all the bacteria and micro fauna you need from the rubble.
Tagging @LiverockRocks for some more insight. They're always super helpful with deciding between different products
We've had the holding system tested many times by AquaBiomics for fish/coral pathogens/diseases. EVERY test has shown 0 of 30+ fish pathogens and 13 coral pathogens. We've never had a customer report ich/velvet/flukes/etc caused by TBS rock or sand. Taking into account that we keep the holding system 100% TBS farmed in the Gulf of Mexico products and the wide temperature range that our farm experiences 45F - 88F, there is little worry your fish will get a disease from TBS.
Thank you for sharing this.
Unless it's a cryptic zone.
I have live rock from @Gulf Live Rock - it came with lots of sponge and tunicates. It’s covered in sponges of all kinda of color and most of it made it. The tunicates dies off though.
Most sponges expire when exposed to air and can be by far the most toxic organism living on the rock. All it takes is one to go sitting in 2 gallons of 90 degree water on a tarmac in Jacksonville to start killing everything else. While aesthetically pleasing to some I'm open to hearing all the benefits they provide that outweigh the damage they can do. Even if some do survive the trip who wants invasive sponge taking hold and finding its way into the filtration?
You obviously have a strong opinion about this matter. Good for you. Go with that.Most sponges expire when exposed to air and can be by far the most toxic organism living on the rock. All it takes is one to go sitting in 2 gallons of 90 degree water on a tarmac in Jacksonville to start killing everything else. While aesthetically pleasing to some I'm open to hearing all the benefits they provide that outweigh the damage they can do. Even if some do survive the trip who wants invasive sponge taking hold and finding its way into the filtration?
My bad op tell the girls you want extra sponge. I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.
Would you look at that? 360 pounds of premium rock with no sponge on it. I wonder why Phillipp removed as much as he could? Oh because he knows what he's doing.
Your experience and perception. Facts are much more difficult to pin down.
Where did you get all that rock from?Most sponges expire when exposed to air and can be by far the most toxic organism living on the rock. All it takes is one to go sitting in 2 gallons of 90 degree water on a tarmac in Jacksonville to start killing everything else. While aesthetically pleasing to some I'm open to hearing all the benefits they provide that outweigh the damage they can do. Even if some do survive the trip who wants invasive sponge taking hold and finding its way into the filtration?
My bad op tell the girls you want extra sponge. I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.
Would you look at that? 360 pounds of premium rock with no sponge on it. I wonder why Phillipp removed as much as he could? Oh because he knows what he's doing.
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This looks like a pretty good option as well…I ended up getting TBS Pico treasure chest for my sump, similar size to Reefer 250. I'm satisfied with the purchase, only minor ugly phase with some diatoms which went away fairly quickly.
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Build Thread - Octo LUX T90
Hello reefers, I decided to document the progress of the new reef. I went with the Reef Octopus Octo LUX T90 system which is advertised as an "All in One". There aren't many build threads on these tanks, so I hope to capture lots of details for anyone interested in them or that wants to...
Yes, sand went to the display. Initially I was going to put it in a container in the sump but it was more practical to just put it in the display.
lol. Lesson in what exactly? I’ve been keeping saltwater tanks for 25 years, not sure what you think you’re going to teach me? Seems like you have your preferred liverock supplier, which isn’t TBS. This thread is about TBS.
