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No biological role, as used by me and the Royal Society of Chemistry means no organism has any need or natural use if it. It does not mean no impact on organisms, such as a medication or toxicity.
Is this a very nuanced topic in the chemistry world?

What happens if an organism needs the medication?

Why is “natural use” an important distinction vs unnatural use?

Is the distinction more like, “Do they require it for survival?”
 
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Is this a very nuanced topic in the chemistry world?

What happens if an organism needs the medication?

Why is “natural use” an important distinction vs unnatural use?

Is the distinction more like, “Do they require it for survival?”

Yes, it is somewhat arbitrary but I also think it is useful to make the distinction this way. In any case, if one wants to include, say, an unnatural antibiotic that is entirely man made and it saves someone’s life by killing a bacteria, then it certainly has a use, but including it in a list of chemicals with a natural biological role (say, glucose) may not be the clearest way to characterize it.
 

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Yes, it is somewhat arbitrary but I also think it is useful to make the distinction this way. In any case, if one wants to include, say, an unnatural antibiotic that is entirely man made and it saves someone’s life by killing a bacteria, then it certainly has a use, but including it in a list of chemicals with a natural biological role (say, glucose) may not be the clearest way to characterize it.
It’s kind of like, “Can they directly use it and benefit from it?” that qualifies as a biological role.

I totally agree with you. I was trying to understand the concept. I appreciate you explaining it to me.

I don’t like dosing elements with no biological role. I wish Tropic Marin didn’t include lithium in the A Trace Elements since the salt mix usually contains a surplus of it. I feel like it’s a waste product, and I sometimes wonder if I’ll drive it too high.

This was with never dosing any lithium supplement (Oceamo MS):

I just started dosing Tropic A- since the elements that A- supplied were a little low in the last ICP. I only dosed the K+ bottle for the longest time.

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Pro-Coral A- Trace 2 Contains:

  • Bromine
  • Fluorine
  • Iodine
  • Lithium
  • Molybdenum
  • Selenium
  • Vanadium
 

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Hi @Randy Holmes-Farley, thank you so much for mangan and iron dosing. I have question about silicat dosing, i dont understand much what "water glass" is, in my country, water glass look much diffrent from what you describe. But i found this product, Na2SiO3.9H2O in powder form, can i use it instead ? If yes, what is the weekly dose for 900 litters tank for 1ppm silica as you said ? Thank you so much
 

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