my new baby... AKA The Café

[BristleWormHater]

For the record, Nate is probably 3 or 4 gummies in. Maybe 6.

Edibles?

 

[tbrown]

Edibles?

Yes.

 

[JoJosReef]

Although my Mocha and Black Ocellaris come up and snuggle my hand when I'm working in the sump.

Priming you for the day of reckoning. They're like cats. Cuddly and cute but secretly not secretly plotting your demise.

 

[JoJosReef]

I don’t know what a cronie is, I don’t know what an intern is, and I certainly don’t know if I be learned anything. I’m just here for the jokes (at least until the Waffle House returns to normal service).

You're way overqualified for the Intern position, even for the highly coveted Intern of the Intern position.

 

[tbrown]

Priming you for the day of reckoning. They're like cats. Cuddly and cute but secretly not secretly plotting your demise.

However, if fish can talk (which I assume they can), my other Clown has most likely told them "the story".

 

[Nate Chalk]

Edibles?

Alot of things fall into the category of edible.

 

[fishguy242]

Alot of things fall into the category of edible.

is there anything you wont eat Nate ? ...

 

[fishguy242]

Good morning everyone...

 

[LadyMac]

Good morning. Tomorrow my light should arrive. Hubbs gets to hang it, yay. Turns out there’s a stud above the tank. hubba hubba. Just kidding but yeah it’s dead center overhead so should be easy enough.

Meaning that I’ve got to make some plans. What to do with the pallifina after I gather everything.

What’s everyone’s thoughts on sixline wrasses, royal grammas, fire fish, and blue spot jawfish? Would any of these, or all of these, do ok with acros? Each other? Will they try to eat me? lol. The blue spot is super adorable and so is the wrasse. Also I’ve heard six lines eat vermintids? Would one be ok in the 35 with the other idiots I have? Risk of clowns tearing them to shreds?

 

[Slocke]

Good morning. Tomorrow my light should arrive. Hubbs gets to hang it, yay. Turns out there’s a stud above the tank. hubba hubba. Just kidding but yeah it’s dead center overhead so should be easy enough.

Meaning that I’ve got to make some plans. What to do with the pallifina after I gather everything.

What’s everyone’s thoughts on sixline wrasses, royal grammas, fire fish, and blue spot jawfish? Would any of these, or all of these, do ok with acros? Each other? Will they try to eat me? lol. The blue spot is super adorable and so is the wrasse. Also I’ve heard six lines eat vermintids? Would one be ok in the 35 with the other idiots I have? Risk of clowns tearing them to shreds?

I would skip the sixline and get a more peaceful wrasse. Also a bluespot is a colder water fish so I would swap with a yellowheaded. I actually prefer the yellowheaded jawfish. Almost angelic when happy.

How big is the tank?

 

[LadyMac]

I would skip the sixline and get a more peaceful wrasse. Also a bluespot is a colder water fish so I would swap with a yellowheaded. I actually prefer the yellowheaded jawfish. Almost angelic when happy.

How big is the tank?

24x24x21, total volume with sump is 70ish gallons.

That’s empty volume.

 

[fishguy242]

Good morning. Tomorrow my light should arrive. Hubbs gets to hang it, yay. Turns out there’s a stud above the tank. hubba hubba. Just kidding but yeah it’s dead center overhead so should be easy enough.

Meaning that I’ve got to make some plans. What to do with the pallifina after I gather everything.

What’s everyone’s thoughts on sixline wrasses, royal grammas, fire fish, and blue spot jawfish? Would any of these, or all of these, do ok with acros? Each other? Will they try to eat me? lol. The blue spot is super adorable and so is the wrasse. Also I’ve heard six lines eat vermintids? Would one be ok in the 35 with the other idiots I have? Risk of clowns tearing them to shreds?

Not sure the firefish would be happy, usually do better in small schools,more swimming space, like the idea of jawfish though...how about a few garden eels ?

 

[fishguy242]

"Lil Missy"thinks she just owns the place...

Bear ,he don't care ,long as it's a chair...

 

[LadyMac]

Not sure the firefish would be happy, usually do better in small schools,more swimming space, like the idea of jawfish though...how about a few garden eels ?

Oooh. Will research!

 

[Slocke]

Not sure the firefish would be happy, usually do better in small schools,more swimming space, like the idea of jawfish though...how about a few garden eels ?

I’ve never heard of anyone having long term success with a group of firefish. They seem to kill each other off? @ISpeakForTheSeas and me were having this very discussion. Do you know anyone who has had long term success with a group?

24x24x21, total volume with sump is 70ish gallons.

That’s empty volume.

If you can find a pink streak wrasse, or like the look of possums. Or my favorite the radiant wrasse rather then the six.

Also jawfish need deep sand as do garden eels. The problem with garden eels is they need hourly feeds so you need to train them onto pellets and get an auto feeder and have great filtration.

 

[fishguy242]

I’ve never heard of anyone having long term success with a group of firefish. They seem to kill each other off? @ISpeakForTheSeas and me were having this very discussion. Do you know anyone who has had long term success with a group?

would pick up 50 at a time ,pass on 3-7 per, yes i had 5 purples in 240 for a few years myself ,seemed docile compared to cromis schools...

 

[ISpeakForTheSeas]

would pick up 50 at a time ,pass on 3-7 per, yes i had 5 purples in 240 for a few years myself ,seemed docile compared to cromis schools...

Interesting- I haven't heard of successful firefish schools before in aquariums, and I've heard mixed things on dartfish schools. I'm guessing these need similar cues to chromis to school successfully (meaning they may need proper feeding, scaping, tankmates, numbers, etc. to school).

With regards to the garden eels, you may have more success treating them like seahorses mixed with regular fish that need deep sand rather than treating them just like regular fish:

For garden eels, most people seem to struggle with them, but the person I’ve quoted below had them breeding in their tank (as of their last post in the thread, haven’t been able to get the young to settlement yet):

As far as my broodstock goes. (If my phone autocorrects that one more time to broomstick, I will scream!!!) I have 5 adults, 3 male and two females in my seahorse tank. They eat literally everything I put in there, including flake food. But they eat mainly a diet of PE mysis and whatever bits of the Gamma Marine Cuisine they fancy. SG 1.023, temp 22-23degrees Celsius. Sandbed of minimum 4 inches, rising to about 6 at the back. But they're happy in the 4" at the front.

The eels are some of my oldest tank residents, I've had a tank wipeout that these guys survived. I've had 3 (including the breeding pair) for around 5 years and two others for about two years. They eat literally everything I throw at them, including flake food and pellets. But because of the seahorses, they get mainly frozen food. But again, only twice a day. The biggest problem with garden eels is them escaping. My tank has a brace around the inside that's about 3" wide, there's a gap for the return pipes which I fill with filter floss because they will literally get through the tiniest gap, but only at the edge of the tank. I think the brace on mine is what's saved many of them from the carpet, unfortunately I've lost two newcomers from forgetting to fill around the return pipes with filter floss.

I feed the whole tank one cube of frozen gamma mysis, one cube of gamma marine cuisine and one cube of PE mysis, twice a day. The garden eels eat anything that comes near them, even the huge bits of mysis and happily take flake food too.
The shrimpfish prefer the mysis and aren't shy about competing with everything else for it.
I don't regularly add rots/pods or phyto to the tank. Just chuck some in every now and then if I have a surplus. The seahorses, copperband, filefish and mandarin means I don't have a large population of pods/mysis anymore.

I don't know if they're happy because of the other slow moving/careful feeding fish in there or because of the temp/salinity/rock placement etc. I keep the tank and 22-23degrees year round, SG at 1.022-1.023 and do about a 30% water change every 10-14 days.

Maybe I just got lucky!

 

[danieyella]

I’ve never heard of anyone having long term success with a group of firefish. They seem to kill each other off? @ISpeakForTheSeas and me were having this very discussion. Do you know anyone who has had long term success with a group?

I've had 3 for over a year together, not a big group but no signs of aggression. They don't always hang out.

 

[danieyella]

Also yeah, get some garden eels! They're on my list for when the peninsula transition happens. They'll go in the cube with the ponies

 

[fishguy242]

last night's moon rise,at about sunset...