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soon to be more...;Happy
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Love seeing all the clowns again!!
 
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Hi everyone! I’ve been doing a lot of research lately about running activated carbon and it’s potential to cause HLLE is blue hippo tangs. It seems to be a pretty controversial idea, so I wanted to hear some more opinions/experiences.

The reason I’m asking is because I bought a baby blue hippo tang about four months ago from my LFS. It ended up having a fungus infection that I noticed once I was home, so I ended up switching it out for a new one. I was told that a 20 gallon would be okay for it for up two years, and to feed it pellets and flakes. It began to develop HLLE within about a month of having it, so I began researching possible causes. I quickly concluded that it was malnourished, due to not being fed seaweed, and began feeding red nori daily, as well as, herbivore formulated pellets and occasional live baby brine shrimp. However, it’s possible that the condition was caused from poor conditions/stress at the LFS, on top of the stress of being moved to, yet, another new tank. Or even the two combined. Recently, I’ve been reading that some people believe activated carbon is to blame. I can’t see activated carbon being the sole cause of the condition, but I am curious as to the possibility of it causing additional stress by removing essential vitamins/minerals from the water. I would like the tang’s condition to improve, and for it to be as happy, and healthy, as possible. So, what do y’all think?

A note for the Tang Police:
If I can not improve its condition, as well as, move it to a larger tank within year, I will give it away to someone who can take better care of it. ‘‘Twas a mistake on my part and I’ve learned my lesson. No need for citations this time.
honestly ,prob more malnutrition,than carbon,just my opinion..,:)
 

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honestly ,prob more malnutrition,than carbon,just my opinion..,:)
I agree with this to an extent. I have a ton of tangs and always have had them and ran carbon. I am also one that rinses my carbon very well before using it in the tank. Not a vigorous rinse, but a gentle flow of water while gently rotating the bag I am washing it in. If you are too rough, you just keep making more and more dust.
 

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honestly ,prob more malnutrition,than carbon,just my opinion..,:)
This is what I’ve been leaning toward. Especially since it hasn’t progressed since I used the feeding and added the nori!
I agree with this to an extent. I have a ton of tangs and always have had them and ran carbon. I am also one that rinses my carbon very well before using it in the tank. Not a vigorous rinse, but a gentle flow of water while gently rotating the bag I am washing it in. If you are too rough, you just keep making more and more dust.
I typically rinse mine, as well. However, I think I’ll try rinsing it a bit more and doing it a bit gentler. There always seems to be an endless amount of dust voming off of them, so perhaps I’m being a bit too aggressive with it.
 
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nope...:oops:not happening...i swear ,cannot leave these guys for a minute...:DAWAKE...;)
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BED'S CLEAR...;)pups tired...;HappyNAP TIME...:D:rolleyes:
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I caught up, Wow what a week for you Frank! Been busy. Still wondering what you were talking about when you said something way back about a peninsula??
frankentank is leaking,is a peninsula, just need to empty,move, clean,reseal,refill ,is all... :D :D o_O;Facepalm;Blackeye:)
 

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@Eagle_Steve

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You caught me with my philosophers cap on lol. But really. I stand by question.

Just so I don’t hijack the thread. There’s…idk..spicy? Discussion going on regarding the ethics of the hobby which turned into an examination of the composition (think platonic “forms” ala allegory of the cave) of happiness. And yeah.

not bad in any way. Just lively.
 

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@Eagle_Steve

Dr House Oops GIF

You caught me with my philosophers cap on lol. But really. I stand by question.

Just so I don’t hijack the thread. There’s…idk..spicy? Discussion going on the ethics of the hobby which turned into an examination of the composition of happiness. And yeah.

not bad in any way. Just lively.
Heck I was at the top of the list for posts on that one. All knowing where it would go lol. I will leave my 25+ year old fish out of that conversation though. You know, the ones that recognize me and come to the tank and no one else when they approach the tank.
 

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Heck I was at the top of the list for posts on that one. All knowing where it would go lol. I will leave my 25+ year old fish out of that conversation though. You know, the ones that recognize me and come to the tank and no one else when they approach the tank.

Im actually a little surprised at how civil it’s been so far. Foolishly perhaps, I felt like cosplaying as Socrates for a bit LOL

I’m with you though. Choco dude is already coming up to me when I’m checking on stuff. I can approach the tank without him getting spooked.

same with my foxface and clowns.
 

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On topic question:

my clowns are obviously captive bred mutants (maybe that’s what makes them extreme? :cool::cool:) so I’m positive they can’t tell a nem from a vacuum cleaner.

are there any reasonably successful methods for getting them to decide to be hosted?

melevsreef (Mark)’s method seems like it would work in an academic sense. But yeah.
 

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On topic question:

my clowns are obviously captive bred mutants (maybe that’s what makes them extreme? :cool::cool:) so I’m positive they can’t tell a nem from a vacuum cleaner.

are there any reasonably successful methods for getting them to decide to be hosted?

melevsreef (Mark)’s method seems like it would work in an academic sense. But yeah.
iPad or tablet with a video on loop of clown diving in and out a nem. Works wonders.
 
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