My first thoughts on Jebao MLW Wave Makers

[attiland]

I have had one of these for about a year of off and on use. It is now running in my new tank with a Nero 3. Mine is the MLW 5. My only complaint is you can only have 2 programs a day. If they can’t do unlimited at least give more than 2. Being able to change it to 4 programs a day would have been plenty.

I think it is yet an another restriction makes no sense.
I just wish there would be a way submitting suggestions to them to modify their design of the app. Currently their website still have no information about the MLW line let alone the app.

 

[Karen00]

I looked on ebay, aliexpress, and Amazon. The Jebao MOW is significantly more expensive than the coralbox qps and the Jebao SOW. I like the "OW" models as they swivel. About $60can more if I go MOW.

Do you know what the differences are between the MOW and MLW models? I thought maybe only one had the app but I see both of them feature this. Is the only difference that the MOW swivels. I like this feature as well so would buy this over a non-swivel type. For example the specs on the MOW-3 look exactly the same as MLW-5 other than the shape of the powerhead. Are there other differences?

 

[attiland]

Do you know what the differences are between the MOW and MLW models? I thought maybe only one had the app but I see both of them feature this. Is the only difference that the MOW swivels. I like this feature as well so would buy this over a non-swivel type. For example the specs on the MOW-3 look exactly the same as MLW-5 other than the shape of the powerhead. Are there other differences?

The shape is different and LCD controls are MLW feature only

 

[Acros]

Can’t you create a program with how many ever modes as you want? I could on the SLW20M.

 

[attiland]

Can’t you create a program with how many ever modes as you want? I could on the SLW20M.

I couldn’t at first but I am not intended to use timers.
I only had this issue when set it to master

 

[ColoredRock]

I find the intellectual property (IP) rights argument interesting. If Jebao or any other china manufacturer wanted to go big or go home and replicate the echotech mp40 I could understand that argument.

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[Karen00]

The shape is different and LCD controls are MLW feature only

What do you mean the LCD controls are MLW only? I see an LCD featured with the MOW series. Is there something specific on the MLW LCD?

 

[Jonreefer]

Can’t you create a program with how many ever modes as you want? I could on the SLW20M.

Are you able to create more than 2 programs in 24hr. My MLW only allows me 2

 

[Acros]

Are you able to create more than 2 programs in 24hr. My MLW only allows me 2

I will try. By two programs do you mean delete the program and create a new one?

 

[Jonreefer]

I will try. By two programs do you mean delete the program and create a new one?

no it only lets me put 2 modes per 24hr. yours showed you have 4 modes running in a 24hr time

 

[iamahab]

I own a swl wave maker. I was unaware of any ip theft but was surprised to see how much it resembled the nero3. My hygger mini crapped the bed and I needed a small wave maker asap. I can't recall why I went with jebao (maybe because the hygger stopped working after 5 months) but it has done well so far.I won't drone on about it's flaws, it is what it is for that price point. I might rethink supporting them in the future but for now I'll worry about supporting my tank

 

[Acros]

no it only lets me put 2 modes per 24hr. yours showed you have 4 modes running in a 24hr time

Yes, it is 4 different modes during a 24 hour cycle. It is actually split into 5 segments. I did not encounter any limits while setting it up. I can try to walk you through it if you could dm me.

 

[AquaKey]

Does anyone know if you can use a MLW to control a SLW in master/slave mode?

 

[attiland]

What do you mean the LCD controls are MLW only? I see an LCD featured with the MOW series. Is there something specific on the MLW LCD?

Sorry my bad. Both has display on its controller.

 

[Karen00]

Sorry my bad. Both has display on its controller.

Awesome. Thanks! I'm glad to read this.

 

[Starganderfish]

I have had one of these for about a year of off and on use. It is now running in my new tank with a Nero 3. Mine is the MLW 5. My only complaint is you can only have 2 programs a day. If they can’t do unlimited at least give more than 2. Being able to change it to 4 programs a day would have been plenty.

Can I ask how it compares to the Nero 3?
Size of unit, strength of flow, variability of flow (ie: how does the min flow of the MLW 5 compare to Min flow of Nero 3 and same for Max flow).
Also, does Feed mode on the MLW switch the pump all the way off or does it just dial it down? (I use a Nero 3 in a Pico and Feed Mode is 1% flow, which is still way too powerful in a small tank.) It would be great to be able to have it power off for 10 mins at the press of a button, instead of requiring manual "Pump Off" then "Pump On".

Also, does anyone know if you can "group" different types of "M" series pumps in the App to be controlled together? Contemplating adding one of the MDP DC controllable pumps as a Return Pump in my 20 gal and I like the idea of being able to control the flow of both MDP and MLW pumps together at feeding time or night - especially being able to hook them both up to a single "Feed" button to wind them down or switch them off.
I like the idea of Apps for programming and configuring equip but I miss having a physical button for quick on/off/pause changes when working around the tank. I love that the Jebao has both.

 

[attiland]

Can I ask how it compares to the Nero 3?
Size of unit, strength of flow, variability of flow (ie: how does the min flow of the MLW 5 compare to Min flow of Nero 3 and same for Max flow).
Also, does Feed mode on the MLW switch the pump all the way off or does it just dial it down? (I use a Nero 3 in a Pico and Feed Mode is 1% flow, which is still way too powerful in a small tank.) It would be great to be able to have it power off for 10 mins at the press of a button, instead of requiring manual "Pump Off" then "Pump On".

Also, does anyone know if you can "group" different types of "M" series pumps in the App to be controlled together? Contemplating adding one of the MDP DC controllable pumps as a Return Pump in my 20 gal and I like the idea of being able to control the flow of both MDP and MLW pumps together at feeding time or night - especially being able to hook them both up to a single "Feed" button to wind them down or switch them off.
I like the idea of Apps for programming and configuring equip but I miss having a physical button for quick on/off/pause changes when working around the tank. I love that the Jebao has both.

Unfortunately I am not able to compare it with Nero 3. Hopefully someone will chip in for that. I cnow all WiFi enabled wave makers can be grouped together as long as they are compatible with the app. If listed you can group them.
feeding time on the wave makers are completely stop them. I have tried that.
over all I still like this pump. Some of the limitations I mentioned in the original post looks to be possible. I just wish the app would be more intuitive.

 

[Acros]

@attiland you can still access the timer/programs in master-slave mode. Not sure if you figured that out already.

 

[Brucealmighty]

I have had these wavemakers forever, and replaced them with the same after about 5 years with the same again, and with the return pumps too same make, as for any copying shenanigans going on well the whole world's been at that sugar (keeping it clean) for donkey's ions, everyone's been copying everyone else's ideas, I'm in the automotive trade as soon as a new car is released we buy, as a customer and strip and examine and get innovative ideas, it's how we build a future, we should really all work together on everything, like the ozone layer, we worked together spread our knowledge and banned cfc's from being used in production and put into our fridges etc etc and we fixed it (almost} we can do some good sugar when we work together

 

[attiland]

@attiland you can still access the timer/programs in master-slave mode. Not sure if you figured that out already.

Thank you. I have seen it. I don’t use it though