Lets Tank Reefing Content...

[IHAVEACOMPLEX]

I am very good friends with multiple of the large reefing YouTubers and talk to them about it all the time. It is a massive money pit that takes years of weekly uploads to even get a small following. No company will sponsor and send you stuff until you have that following. If they are willing to send you stuff, they will REQUIRE positive talk and pushing of their products. Many of the large hobby companies actually require positive feedback or they stop sending you stuff.

Over the years I have been apporached by some of them and none of them like my "I am going to speak my mind so if it sucks, I will say that outloud for everyone to hear" mentality. You do NOT want to get dragged into the coroprate sponsorship world if you enjoy your freedom of speech.

This is exactly the type of dialog I was hoping to get started here.

So here is a question I'd ask you to answer honestly..

Take "me" out of the equation, and pretend all of the people of R2R got together, voted for a show host, and sponsored a new YouTube channel dedicated to reefing.

Do you think that would be an interesting show to watch?

Completely unbiased by sponsors, the show could go in whatever direction the R2R community wanted it to go.

That is something I'd throw $10 to see if it worked out.

The only reason I posted originally is because to my knowledge, no one has tried to make this work yet, and I thought someone should take a swing at it...

 

[Ks4726]

This is exactly the type of dialog I was hoping to get started here.

So here is a question I'd ask you to answer honestly..

Take "me" out of the equation, and pretend all of the people of R2R got together, voted for a show host, and sponsored a new YouTube channel dedicated to reefing.

Do you think that would be an interesting show to watch?

Completely unbiased by sponsors, the show could go in whatever direction the R2R community wanted it to go.

That is something I'd throw $10 to see if it worked out.

The only reason I posted originally is because to my knowledge, no one has tried to make this work yet, and I thought someone should take a swing at it...

One time 10 bucks 10 dollar monthly? And probably not because you're not going to teach me anything I don't already know. That 10 bucks per person isn't going to get you a set up and constantly bring in items to discuss long term.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

Now we are talking!

Great Question.

First I'll start with a reason why you SHOULDN'T follow me...

1. If you have been in the hobby for 20 years, I will likely never be able to teach you anything you don't already know about animal husbandry, reef keeping best practices, or water chemistry. I'm always amazed at how much time and effort people dedicate to these topics to push the hobby forward, and I likely will never come anywhere close to being an expert here.

But I do have a few strong suits that pair pretty well with reef keeping, that could add a pretty fresh take on building a reef tank.

1. I've managed a residential construction company for the past 5 years or so, and I think it has given me unique insight on how a reef tank could be "built in" to a residential setting. I have a few Ideas that others could implement on their next build on how to really integrate a tank into the house it is housed in.

2. As an avid DIY-er, I also have a few different Ideas on how some common reefing problems that still plague the hobby could be mitigated through some relatively easy changes to the common reef setup. (As an example, I have an Idea for a type of overflow that hasn't been used before).

3. The over-arching principal here is that - like @Reefer Matt mentioned, we don't have the most popular hobby, and its in all of our best interest to expand it as much as possible. I imagine the more quality content available that helps people find success in the hobby, the more likely it is to grow, and continue to evolve further

He said it's a niche hobby...not that it isn't popular. It has a global reach and significant growth in the number of hobbyists is projected in coming years. I think he's more referring to the audience and what they would want to see (which is something they havent seen or presented in a new way). If you are motivated by more than money, you should try to start. I dont think anyone would advise you to start an endeavor such as this with only money in mind, particularly after you highlighted the reasons people shouldn't follow you or be interested.

 

[rtparty]

This is exactly the type of dialog I was hoping to get started here.

So here is a question I'd ask you to answer honestly..

Take "me" out of the equation, and pretend all of the people of R2R got together, voted for a show host, and sponsored a new YouTube channel dedicated to reefing.

Do you think that would be an interesting show to watch?

Completely unbiased by sponsors, the show could go in whatever direction the R2R community wanted it to go.

That is something I'd throw $10 to see if it worked out.

The only reason I posted originally is because to my knowledge, no one has tried to make this work yet, and I thought someone should take a swing at it...

No.

Nobody will ever agree to a host or a direction or topics.

People still can't agree on basic science that is time tested and proven in this hobby.

 

[IHAVEACOMPLEX]

One time 10 bucks 10 dollar monthly? And probably not because you're not going to teach me anything I don't already know. That 10 bucks per person isn't going to get you a set up and constantly bring in items to discuss long term.

One time $10. If that went well everyone could determine if further "investment" was worth it to them.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

One time $10. If that went well everyone could determine if further "investment" was worth it to them.

make a video. People will judge whether or not its worth the money. Isn't that fair enough?

 

[IHAVEACOMPLEX]

No.

Nobody will ever agree to a host or a direction or topics.

People still can't agree on basic science that is time tested and proven in this hobby.

Ha, So we should all stop trying? What is the point of this community if we aren't here to help each other and further the hobby?

 

[exnisstech]

So you aren't an experienced reefer but you want to create sponsored videos for reefers so you don't have to spend your own money to set up your first tank? Thanks but I'll pass. There's already enough sponsored misinformation on you tube IMO. Also starting a go fund me to get a free tank is just discusting. Again JMO

 

[IHAVEACOMPLEX]

So you aren't an experienced reefer but you want to create sponsored videos for reefers so you don't have to spend your own money to set up your first tank? Thanks but I'll pass. There's already enough sponsored misinformation on you tube IMO. Also starting s go fund me to get s free tank I'd just discusting. Again JMO

Thanks for your opinion!

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

At this point it's almost starting to sound like a scam. I keep encouraging you to start but you wont unless you get money...why are you so reluctant to show people what theyd be giving you money for? Its doubtful they would, but why do you refuse to show what you have to offer?

 

[IHAVEACOMPLEX]

At this point it's almost starting to sound like a scam. I keep encouraging you to start but you wont unless you get money...why are you so reluctant to show people what theyd be giving you money for? Its doubtful they would, but why do you refuse to show what you have to offer?

If there was broad interest in seeing a sample of content, I would certainly put something together livinlifeinBKK... I certainly didn't discount the idea when you posed it, Thank you.

 

[Ks4726]

Troll

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

Troll

Agreed.

 

[Ks4726]

Agreed.

Has a side answer for everything, and wants to keep posting but will never make any video or answer you straight. Only thing that was set in stone was the 10 dollar fee.

 

[IHAVEACOMPLEX]

Has a side answer for everything, and wants to keep posting but will never make any video or answer you straight. Only thing that was set in stone was the 10 dollar fee.

I'm sorry you feel that way!

 

[Ks4726]

I'm sorry you feel that way!

It's okay. I forgive you. Good luck with your idea. Hope it works for you.

 

[rtparty]

Ha, So we should all stop trying? What is the point of this community if we aren't here to help each other and further the hobby?

Where did I say any of that?

You asked if R2R would come to a consensus on WHO should be host, WHAT topics should be discussed, directions of the videos, AND pay money for that. Never going to happen.

 

[reef’r]

Ha, and the ribbing continues...

These are all fair points!

Regarding "does everyone get there 10 bucks back" - I was thinking about using a site like kickstarter or something similar to that to ensure no one was actually out the $10 until the project was definitely going to happen. I hadn't gotten that far yet, I wanted to her some opinions before pushing in any direction.

Just giving you a hard time really lol I too would like to have a social media following where I just get to do reefing jazz and people gobbled it up, but it’s tough and you have to produce results which in reefing takes years. Maybe if there already was a booming tank you could post and then pitch the idea you would have more skin in the game, see what I mean?

 

[IHAVEACOMPLEX]

Where did I say any of that?

You asked if R2R would come to a consensus on WHO should be host, WHAT topics should be discussed, directions of the videos, AND pay money for that. Never going to happen.

You didn't say that! I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm just trying to make the point that if we all worked together on something, we could probably put out some pretty cool content!

 

[rtparty]

You didn't say that! I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm just trying to make the point that if we all worked together on something, we could probably put out some pretty cool content!

Yes I did. I said you would never get people to agree on things. People come on and argue basic, fully understood science.