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I added a Valentini puffer to my tank about 2 weeks ago. All seemed fine but yesterday I now notice some white specs on him. Some photos are attached.

Additionally I noticed a very small spot on my clown triggerfish, can’t pick that up on my camera. My orange shoulder tang also had a spot on his fin yesterday but that has disappeared today.

Is this ich? I am not equipped with room or funds for a QT at the moment, hoping it’s just something they can fight off.

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I added a Valentini puffer to my tank about 2 weeks ago. All seemed fine but yesterday I now notice some white specs on him. Some photos are attached.

Additionally I noticed a very small spot on my clown triggerfish, can’t pick that up on my camera. My orange shoulder tang also had a spot on his fin yesterday but that has disappeared today.

Is this ich? I am not equipped with room or funds for a QT at the moment, hoping it’s just something they can fight off.

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May be lympho. Ich will move every 24 hrs. If same number of dots tomorrow, not ich and may be lympho. If more, likely ich
 
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May be lympho. Ich will move every 24 hrs. If same number of dots tomorrow, not ich and may be lympho. If more, likely ich
Any other signs to distinguish them? Say, lack of appetite or rampant spread to other fish? I have other fish that show no signs of it for several days, and everyone seems to be eating fine. Just seems odd that the tang has already dropped the spot, I observe this tank often and I’d suspect I’d have seen it sooner if it was there for longer.
 

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Any other signs to distinguish them? Say, lack of appetite or rampant spread to other fish? I have other fish that show no signs of it for several days, and everyone seems to be eating fine. Just seems odd that the tang has already dropped the spot, I observe this tank often and I’d suspect I’d have seen it sooner if it was there for longer.
This would be very early. Often signs will be increased breathing rate, loss of appetite, appearance of salt grain dots and hiding.
 
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This would be very early. Often signs will be increased breathing rate, loss of appetite, appearance of salt grain dots and hiding.
Just a follow up from today. Puffer seems to have same spots, with a few new small ones I think, rather hard to tell. The clown triggerfish and tang both have no new spots at all and the rest of the fish still have nothing at all.
 

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Just a follow up from today. Puffer seems to have same spots, with a few new small ones I think, rather hard to tell. The clown triggerfish and tang both have no new spots at all and the rest of the fish still have nothing at all.
The other fish with no dots- good. The added dots on puffer, consider quarantine as waiting another day to see if added dots could potentially infect them. For puffer, you can in lieu of coppersafe treat with general cure or chloroquine phosphate which General cure would work
 
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The other fish with no dots- good. The added dots on puffer, consider quarantine as waiting another day to see if added dots could potentially infect them. For puffer, you can in lieu of coppersafe treat with general cure or chloroquine phosphate which General cure would work
I might just have to bite the bullet and set up a 20L as a quarantine tank. If it is ich, which it looks likely to be, it’s going to be in the tank overall then. How long do you think I have to set up the QT system before any possible deaths?
 

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I might just have to bite the bullet and set up a 20L as a quarantine tank. If it is ich, which it looks likely to be, it’s going to be in the tank overall then. How long do you think I have to set up the QT system before any possible deaths?
Sooner the better. As it progresses, it weakens the fish
 
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Sooner the better. As it progresses, it weakens the fish
I think I will do TTM as I have fish like a mandarin and clownfish, which I am concerned about doing copper with. She eats frozen too so I am less worried about feeding during QT.

Still no signs of ich on the other fish though and the puffer has a few more spots again. Makes me wonder if ich was in the system before I added the puffer and something stressed it out.
 

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