Fish in cycle levels to high

[andrews55]

Just a thought I have got 2 sponge filters in my other tank as to help with surface agitation and a little more filtration would adding one of them help by any chance?

 

[Lavey29]

Yes I don’t think I’ll be doing one again too much worry would rather wait until it’s ready and I know I’m safer, I was told not to do water changes for 6 weeks because of removing beneficial bacteria but at the minute I’m thinking might be a little safer to do a few little ones over the week but will this mess up my cycle? Thanks

Removing what beneficial bacteria? The good bacteria is in the rocks and sand albeit minimal because it's a new tank with a fish that has fried gills now. Add nitrifying bacteria to bring the ammonia down along with water changes.

 

[andrews55]

Removing what beneficial bacteria? The good bacteria is in the rocks and sand albeit minimal because it's a new tank with a fish that has fried gills now. Add nitrifying bacteria to bring the ammonia down along with water changes.

Will a sponge filter from one of my other tanks that has already been cycled also help as well as a water change and adding bacteria I have been adding bacteria but if a sponge filter that has been in a already cycled tank for a while will also help I can also put one in now to help as well

 

[FUNGI]

Will a sponge filter from one of my other tanks that has already been cycled also help as well as a water change and adding bacteria I have been adding bacteria but if a sponge filter that has been in a already cycled tank for a while will also help I can also put one in now to help as well

yes...BTW whats your PH at? and start your skimmer

 

[Lavey29]

Will a sponge filter from one of my other tanks that has already been cycled also help as well as a water change and adding bacteria I have been adding bacteria but if a sponge filter that has been in a already cycled tank for a while will also help I can also put one in now to help as well

It can't hurt. As long as you are seeing nitrates production the tank is on the right path.

 

[andrews55]

yes.

Ok Thanks I will pull one out now and add it to the tank as they where only really put in for surface agitation I have lots of filtration already in there

 

[andrews55]

It can't hurt. As long as you are seeing nitrates production the tank is on the right path.

Thanks I’ll put one in now and yes I can see nitrates on the tests

 

[jabberwock]

I would not return to the shop that has been giving you this poor advice. Like "fish in cycle", "don't do water changes".

The problem with fish in cycles is that even if the fish survives (which it might), it is diminished/injured and will probably not live a normal life span.

 

[Lavey29]

I would not return to the shop that has been giving you this poor advice. Like "fish in cycle", "don't do water changes".

The problem with fish in cycles is that even if the fish survives (which it might), it is diminished/injured and will probably not live a normal life span.

Which means they can sell him more fish sooner.

 

[andrews55]

No wont be doing a fish in cycle again would rather wait, I have put one of the two sponge filters in the tank now that has been sat in my cycled tank for about 4 months tank was already cycled before I put them in so I have plenty of bio media in there and still the one sponge filter hopefully that’ll help bring the ammonia down in there

 

[Lavey29]

No wont be doing a fish in cycle again would rather wait, I have put one of the two sponge filters in the tank now that has been sat in my cycled tank for about 4 months tank was already cycled before I put them in so I have plenty of bio media in there and still the one sponge filter hopefully that’ll help bring the ammonia down in there

You seem like a conciseness reefer who may have gotten some bad info from your LFS. Fish in cycle was the old way of doing things but bottle products make cycling fast and efficient now without harming the fish. Just keep up the water changes and watch ammonia. Things will be ok for you in the end.

 

[andrews55]

You seem like a conciseness reefer who may have gotten some bad info from your LFS. Fish in cycle was the old way of doing things but bottle products make cycling fast and efficient now without harming the fish. Just keep up the water changes and watch ammonia. Things will be ok for you in the end.

Thank you, with adding the sponge filter from an already cycled tank that’s been sat in there about 4 months would I be wrong in saying it’s almost like a cycled tank now and would be safer to do water changes now as I have the filter from the cycled tank

 

[andrews55]

When I say a more cycled tank I mean as I have a more stable source of beneficial so safer to do a water change now why I let all the other bio media build up with bacteria

 

[Lavey29]

Thank you, with adding the sponge filter from an already cycled tank that’s been sat in there about 4 months would I be wrong in saying it’s almost like a cycled tank now and would be safer to do water changes now as I have the filter from the cycled tank

Depends on the ammonia level. If it's zero then you know the tank is cycling and can just do regular weekly water changes then. If you see ammonia on your test then you need to do daily or every other day small water changes till the tank builds enough bacteria to cycle efficiently.

 

[Garf]

When I say a more cycled tank I mean as I have a more stable source of beneficial so safer to do a water change now why I let all the other bio media build up with bacteria

Depending on your pH, an ammonia level of 0.8 wouldn't be considered immediately hazardous in normal ranges. You can calculate your free ammonia (the most hazardous portion) in the link below;

Free Ammonia Calculator

Aquarium calculator; Estimate the free (un-ionized) ammonia (NH3) concentration, given the total ammonia concentration.

www.hamzasreef.com

 

[FUNGI]

Depending on your pH, an ammonia level of 0.8 wouldn't be considered immediately hazardous in normal ranges. You can calculate your your free ammonia (the most hazardous portion) in the link below;

Free Ammonia Calculator

Aquarium calculator; Estimate the free (un-ionized) ammonia (NH3) concentration, given the total ammonia concentration.

www.hamzasreef.com

Thanks Garf....Spent all day looking for that calculator......to support my question on his PH...LOL

 

[FUNGI]

Kept find this in all my searches...

 

[Tamberav]

Hi I was wondering if anyone can help I decided to go for a fish in cycle on a new tank I’ve done tests again today with Red Sea test kit and readings seem way too high is there anything I can do
Ammonia 0.8
Nitrate around 5-10
Nitrite around 0.5-1
Thanks

You can use bottled bacteria. Fritz 9 I think is the fastest.

Yes I don’t think I’ll be doing one again too much worry would rather wait until it’s ready and I know I’m safer, I was told not to do water changes for 6 weeks because of removing beneficial bacteria but at the minute I’m thinking might be a little safer to do a few little ones over the week but will this mess up my cycle? Thanks

This is crap advice, most bacteria is going to be living on surfaces. What you remove in the water is negligible.

 

[Reef By Steele]

Sounds like you have it mostly figured out. One thing I will add is the nitrates are probably a false reading. It is my understanding that nitrites have to be at 0 before the nitrate test will be accurate.