Fading on Tequila Sunrise Monti, Recession on Favia, Favites, and Acropora. Everything else looks good. Need some help finding the common thread

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As said in the title, four corals are looking rough out of 18 total. A favia and favites, and a monti and acro.

The favia and the monti were placed too high, and turkey basted a little heavily while dealing with a brown algae bloom. Didnt look like cyano, I'm thinking it was diatoms or dinosaurs. Nuisance algae is gone except for tiny patches that are clinging to a couple of montis. The aquaman and devils eye montis are actually some of the happier looking frags in the tank in spite of the algae.

Just got salifert for phos and nitrate. Api readings were way off. I thought we were running clean. Nitrate is 40ppm or so, and phosphate is 0.5ppm.

Curiously, in spite of the high nutrients, nothing is browning out and the chaeto has stopped growing it seems.

The favia and monti were glued way too high in the tank, so I'm not surprised they're struggling.

The favites and the acro were placed sensibly, so those are confusing to me. The favites is growing on one side and receding on the other, regardless of which side gets more light or flow. The acro was two sticks that I accidentally snapped in half. The bigger stalk is looking pretty dead, but the smaller stalk has been exhibiting better color and polyp extension over time.

All but the acro have been dipped in revive and placed on the sandbed to recover. Recession is slow and they're all hanging on, but seeing the tissue recede a tiny bit more every day doesnt inspire confidence.

What confuses me is that even though these numbers are high, only 20% of the corals are exhibiting any signs of poor health, and the symptoms were seeing arent traditionally a consequence of high nutrients (which will be corrected with WCs).

I've verified the temperature is within range using another thermometer (temp in the DT is 76 / 77, a hair below the sepoint of 78).

Sg is 1.025
Alk is 10, Ca is 430, Mg is 1350.

700 gph flow provided by return pump blowing opposite an mp40 running gyre at 30%.

Any suggestions for factors that may explain the poor health of these corals, but none of the others?

Thanks!
 

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How long has the tank been running?

Any changes of late? Dosing anything?

What's your source water?

Elevated N03 isn't always bad. I currently run around 40+ N03 and a trace of P04. Sudden changes or contamination usually are the culprit.
 
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How long has the tank been running?

Any changes of late? Dosing anything?

What's your source water?

Elevated N03 isn't always bad. I currently run around 40+ N03 and a trace of P04. Sudden changes or contamination usually are the culprit.

Tank is 3 months old. Really jumped in with both feet when starter LPS took off.

RODI source water.

Added a half of the suggested dose of GFO, then dropped back to a quarter of the suggested dose when algae cleared up.

I would increase GFO again, but were running 1:80 phos to nitrate right now. Since 1:20 is usually touted as "equilibrium," I figure it's better to maintain the proportion than chase the numbers down.
 

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Yes it's a young tank. Can you post a picture?
 
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Yes it's a young tank. Can you post a picture?

FTS and pictures of struggling corals attached.

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Okay, thanks.

What lights are you using? How high up are they? Light schedule?

Thanks for being patient with all the questions.
 
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Okay, thanks.

What lights are you using? How high up are they? Light schedule?

Viparspectra 300w. 10 inches above water line. 25% blue channel, 12% white channel. Blues run 10am to 9pm, whites run 1pm to 8pm.

I use a white balance filter for photos, which is why it looks so orange.
 

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Viparspectra 300w. 10 inches above water line. 25% blue channel, 12% white channel. Blues run 10am to 9pm, whites run 1pm to 8pm.

I use a white balance filter for photos, which is why it looks so orange.

Okay, I typically like a little more "blue spectrum" on my tank. I run 60% blues and 20% whites around what your running for light schedule.

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Aside from being three months in and your corals are still acclimating to your water parameters and light spectrum/intensity, they do look a little browned to me. Yes, it can take months to settle in, sometimes much longer.

I would discontinue the use of GFO for now.
Possibly increase your blue intensity a little.
 
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Okay, I typically like a little more "blue spectrum" on my tank. I run 60% blues and 20% whites around what your running for light schedule.

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Aside from being three months in and your corals are still acclimating to your water parameters and light spectrum/intensity, they do look a little browned to me. Yes, it can take months to settle in, sometimes much longer.

I would discontinue the use of GFO for now.
Possibly increase your blue intensity a little.

Can do on the lights.

Phosphate is 0.5, what will dropping the gfo accomplish? The very small dose in a media bag seems to slow the buildup of algae. Since the nutrients are high, wouldn't increasing gfo be the preferred course?

Does chaeto take up less nutrient when the levels are out of proportion regardless of what they are, or does it only become phosphate limited when phosphate is near zero?
 

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Can do on the lights.

Phosphate is 0.5, what will dropping the gfo accomplish? The very small dose in a media bag seems to slow the buildup of algae. Since the nutrients are high, wouldn't increasing gfo be the preferred course?

Does chaeto take up less nutrient when the levels are out of proportion regardless of what they are, or does it only become phosphate limited when phosphate is near zero?

It may be causing the chaetomorpa to not grow and release what it has taken up back into the water column.
 

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