For ostreopsis it is primarily about
To add to this, this has been seen in many tanks in this thread and others, that amino acids use precedes an increase in visible dinos specifically ostreopsis. I did acropower in a test tank of mixed algae a few weed corals and a little bit of dinos. Feeding aminos, the algae decreased while the Dinos became dominant. Ostreopsis especially, but also prorocentrum and some small cell amphidinium as well.
not as clearly detrimental. dinos can't ingest phyto directly, but toxic dino mucus can trap phyto and kill pods that are grown by phyto.
Same thing going on with one of my tanks. I just finished up a 3 day lights out and did a good water change and cleaning. 90% of cyano is gone.
Where did you get your 90w uv
Thank you for the guidance. I will start dosing dino x, last time I did dose red algae control from same brand fauna marine, it did work, it eradicate all algae except dinos lol, I guess I did not follow up the instructions because I was dosing amino acids..... this time I will dose algae x with no reefroids or amino acids. Too bad, because the corals were growing amazing and amazing colours.
Agree @taricha comments.
What did you do man !!
Tbh i just let the tank get dirty lol i dosed nitrates to keep it above 10ppm and phosphates at 0.05. Didnt dven clean the glass and it just naturally stabilized. I got some algae as i was dosing phosphates and nitrates but i ordered alot of CUC and made short work of it. Now my nitrates naturally stay between 5ppm and 10ppm. Phosphates dont budge from 0.05.
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. I really appreciate everybody that has contributed to my continuing education!
Holy moly that is a lifetime's worth of nutrient tools you have going on there:I think I am likely dealing with Dino's right now. At first, I honestly couldn't believe it. I feel like my tank is over-stocked (25sh fish in 120 gal) and that I have to feed pretty often (anthias) but I've been pretty light during those "feeds" so while I am feeding 3-4 times a day I am definitely not doing it 'excessively'.
I have had random skimmer troubles ever since upgrading to an eshopps 220 a month or so ago, never been able to get this thing to function well... or at least in my head I was thinking it wasn't. It's quite possible it's been doing it's job too well, though.
Anyways, I started noticing some slimy brown/red stuff on the substrate and even bottom glass sometimes stretching out in a stringy-mat like thing and at first I was thinking it was cyano... but it started to get a little thicker over the course of the past couple of days. Today I noticed it sticking up on the rocks with bubbles and starting to form the "Stringy webs" on some of my corals.
So of course, I'm panicing because what else is there to do at this point?
I personally stopped testing Nitrate/phosphate daily because the readings were always a disappointment and I am already deploying every conceivable measure of nutrient control or at least the ones that I am capable of doing and even with doing GFO + Phosguard I can never seem to get my Phosphates down to near-zero levels. When I started my phosphate crusade they were running around 0.2 and I was having a lot of coral problems. After deploying those measures my corals have been doing much better, but I am worried now (obviously!).
In my mind my overstocked tank that I am feeding often enough would probably never have low nutrient issues. Right?
Right???????
Wrong!
It has been my seemingly never-ending fight with Phosphate removal that leads me to being ever "extra" in my nutrient control. I target the phosphate directly with GFO and Phosguard, I also deploy liquid Phosphate-E and an oversized skimmer but my phosphates always test high (for example, 0.07 today) even with all of those measures deployed.
So what else to do? Of course -- CARBON DOSING! (I am being sarcastic, I am an idiot obviously. Carbon dosing was a terrible idea.) But that does bring us to Today -- I tested after seeing these bad signs and low and behold my Nitrate reading was at 0 on my salifert. Phosphate is still testing around 0.07 (hanna ULR) I've always had trouble with phos and as mentioned I have been battling it heavily -- it was the nitrate issue that crept up on me.
I guess adding daily doses of Carbon (a reasonable amount) and Microbacter7 in my effort to get phosphates down brought me to this place. The excessive skimming, my scrubber, and the carbon dosing all impacted my nitrates more than the GFO/Phosguard/Phosphate-E did the Phosphates although now that I have acquired some experience that is not such a shocker to me really, phosphates are the devils dandriff!
So what to do, what to do?
I had already started a chemiclean treatment yesterday thinking it was Cyano -- but now I'm pretty sure it isn't. I've had luck with chemiclean knocking out cyano rather painlessly so I don't think I'll have hurt anything by doing this although it seems worthless at this point.
I'm a little concerned because Chemiclean calls for a water change tomorrow 20% I don't really want to do it now. Also chemiclean calls for removal of GAC which I usually keep running in my system just for safety reasons but I am concerned with my GAC offline the Dino's might be toxic.
I think I'll bring the GAC back online first thing tomorrow. I don't think my tank has been over-run yet, and although I have been running GAC I can't say for certain if there is any toxicity associated with what I have as my Urchin and snails/hermits seem to be alive (if they eat Dinoflagellates, do they die? Some of them seem to be chowing down).
I have NeoNitro on hand and some Dr. Tim's refresh, I'm thinking about just dosing those two things pretty hard and seeing where it takes me. Stopping carbon dosing entirely, and trying to keep my nitrate elevated, maybe try to find that sweet spot with the redfield equation. What do you guys think?
