Bayer coral dip in display tank??

[alindell]

I'm about to dip a large rock with infected corals in a 5 gallon bucket with Bayer. I'm about to let this rock soak in this pesticide. I need advice and suggestions if this will be an issue if I rinse this rock and then put it back into the tank?

My plan is to add the rock to a 5 gallon bucket with the pesticide. 400 ml per 2.5 gallons. I will then let it sit for 10 minutes and then transfer the rock to a bucket with fresh salt water. I will also pour small buckets of water over the rock before transferring it to the fresh bucket and after letting it soak in the fresh bucket before moving it into the display tank... Does anybody think this is a bad idea. Will it soak in my rock and leech out Into the display. Will there be an issue with this whole rock instead of individual frags?? Please someone advise me of what they think before I dip this rock. I can't take off the frags since they have grown onto the rock. Is this a bad idea. Will I hurt my whole display tank?

 

[alindell]

I know this stuff is bad, but does it soak into the rock and leech. I want to get rid of these pests. Im kinda on my last limb with these black bugs on my zoa's. Ive had 9x strength interceptor, I've dipped the whole rock in iodine and coral Rx

 

[vetteguy53081]

I'm about to dip a large rock with infected corals in a 5 gallon bucket with Bayer. I'm about to let this rock soak in this pesticide. I need advice and suggestions if this will be an issue if I rinse this rock and then put it back into the tank?

My plan is to add the rock to a 5 gallon bucket with the pesticide. 400 ml per 2.5 gallons. I will then let it sit for 10 minutes and then transfer the rock to a bucket with fresh salt water. I will also pour small buckets of water over the rock before transferring it to the fresh bucket and after letting it soak in the fresh bucket before moving it into the display tank... Does anybody think this is a bad idea. Will it soak in my rock and leech out Into the display. Will there be an issue with this whole rock instead of individual frags?? Please someone advise me of what they think before I dip this rock. I can't take off the frags since they have grown onto the rock. Is this a bad idea. Will I hurt my whole display tank?

Youre better off bleaching rock, then follow with cold water rinse and air dry in the sun. As you know, bayer is a concentrated pesticide and you dont want any of it leaching into your tank down the road. May be more trouble than copper in your rock. Bayer is used as a dip which I stay away from as I use CoralRX

 

[alindell]

Youre better off bleaching rock, then follow with cold water rinse and air dry in the sun. As you know, bayer is a concentrated pesticide and you dont want any of it leaching into your tank down the road. May be more trouble than copper in your rock. Bayer is used as a dip which I stay away from as I use CoralRX

I don't want to kill my zoa's. This rock has a lot of corals on it.

 

[alindell]

Youre better off bleaching rock, then follow with cold water rinse and air dry in the sun. As you know, bayer is a concentrated pesticide and you dont want any of it leaching into your tank down the road. May be more trouble than copper in your rock. Bayer is used as a dip which I stay away from as I use CoralRX

This is the rock. As you can see the zoa's are closed up from this stupid bugs.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I don't want to kill my zoa's. This rock has a lot of corals on it.

For zoas, my choice is a peroxide dip and peroxide is an oxidizer lifting certain things off the polyps. Safe also for your zoas is an iodine dip

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

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I'm about to dip a large rock with infected corals in a 5 gallon bucket with Bayer. I'm about to let this rock soak in this pesticide. I need advice and suggestions if this will be an issue if I rinse this rock and then put it back into the tank?

My plan is to add the rock to a 5 gallon bucket with the pesticide. 400 ml per 2.5 gallons. I will then let it sit for 10 minutes and then transfer the rock to a bucket with fresh salt water. I will also pour small buckets of water over the rock before transferring it to the fresh bucket and after letting it soak in the fresh bucket before moving it into the display tank... Does anybody think this is a bad idea. Will it soak in my rock and leech out Into the display. Will there be an issue with this whole rock instead of individual frags?? Please someone advise me of what they think before I dip this rock. I can't take off the frags since they have grown onto the rock. Is this a bad idea. Will I hurt my whole display tank?

When you say "infected corals", what do you mean?
I usually dip with Bayer, then do 2 fresh saltwater dips/rinses before returning to the tank.

Edit: I read your subsequent posts and think you meant infested.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Youre better off bleaching rock, then follow with cold water rinse and air dry in the sun. As you know, bayer is a concentrated pesticide and you dont want any of it leaching into your tank down the road. May be more trouble than copper in your rock. Bayer is used as a dip which I stay away from as I use CoralRX

Bleach a rock full of corals??

 

[vetteguy53081]

This is the rock. As you can see the zoa's are closed up from this stupid bugs.

Nice little island of zoas. You said bugs- What bugs are you seeing?
When they close like this, it can be to too much light or water flow, sudden change of parameters and even use of vodka or carbon dosing that reduces nitrate quickly. Assure salinity and Phos has not become elevated.
Also assure water flow is moderate as zoas do not require high flow in which you will see polyps growing closer to the rock with shorter stalks.
Another is lack of feeding and food as infrequent feeding and low nutrients can lead to an entire colony melting down. Here is a sample of some of miine:

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

I'm about to dip a large rock with infected corals in a 5 gallon bucket with Bayer. I'm about to let this rock soak in this pesticide. I need advice and suggestions if this will be an issue if I rinse this rock and then put it back into the tank?

My plan is to add the rock to a 5 gallon bucket with the pesticide. 400 ml per 2.5 gallons. I will then let it sit for 10 minutes and then transfer the rock to a bucket with fresh salt water. I will also pour small buckets of water over the rock before transferring it to the fresh bucket and after letting it soak in the fresh bucket before moving it into the display tank... Does anybody think this is a bad idea. Will it soak in my rock and leech out Into the display. Will there be an issue with this whole rock instead of individual frags?? Please someone advise me of what they think before I dip this rock. I can't take off the frags since they have grown onto the rock. Is this a bad idea. Will I hurt my whole display tank?

And this is not an emergency.

 

[alindell]

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When you say "infected corals", what do you mean?
I usually dip with Bayer, then do 2 fresh saltwater dips/rinses before returning to the tank.

Edit: I read your subsequent posts and think you meant infested.

They are infected with black bugs. Like tiny little mites. I have killed the bugs on my SPS but they are also on my zoa's

 

[alindell]

Nice little island of zoas. You said bugs- What bugs are you seeing?
When they close like this, it can be to too much light or water flow, sudden change of parameters and even use of vodka or carbon dosing that reduces nitrate quickly. Assure salinity and Phos has not become elevated.
Also assure water flow is moderate as zoas do not require high flow in which you will see polyps growing closer to the rock with shorter stalks.
Another is lack of feeding and food as infrequent feeding and low nutrients can lead to an entire colony melting down. Here is a sample of some of miine:

They went from this to this
Parameters haven't changed. I'm growing so and everything else is looking good. I have zoa's same light level and flow doing fine. This rock has been on the same spot and doing good until they started closing up. I experimented with flow and light but ultimately nothing worked. I noticed certain frags were fine and but then slowly the whole rock started looking like crap. I noticed these tiny black bugs that are almost microscopic on them. That's the only things that changed and it makes sense why they are always closed up. These bugs crawl over bite and irritate them until they die over months

 

[alindell]

You can see how these jerks are slowly killing them. I think what I'm going to do is actually do is set up a temporary quarantine tank just for this rock. And also do water changes on this rock until I'm certain the Bayer is no longer going to infect my display tank

 

[alindell]

For zoas, my choice is a peroxide dip and peroxide is an oxidizer lifting certain things off the polyps. Safe also for your zoas is an iodine dip

I've tried iodine. Did nothing. Tell me more about this peroxide. Do you think this would kill the bugs

 

[fishguy242]

have you tried just a 10 min freshwater dip only ? WIWD...

 

[alindell]

have you tried just a 10 min freshwater dip only ? WIWD...

Have not tried that. I've heard that is pretty rough though but it may be better than leeching toxic chemicals into the tank. Do you think the fresh water dip would kill these bugs or is it better for other pests.

 

[EricR]

You said, "black bugs".
I hear more Acro keepers worried about that -- never heard of that for zoas (but maybe?).

I like the idea of H2O2 for first try, then rinse, then back in tank.
Pesticides would be a last resort for me,,, and then I'd want separate QT for quite a while to see if the zoas survive and maybe some time to decontaminate the rock (with lots of water changes).

No way you could scrape/extract and microscope the bugs you're talking about?

 

[fishguy242]

Have not tried that. I've heard that is pretty rough though but it may be better than leeching toxic chemicals into the tank. Do you think the fresh water dip would kill these bugs or is it better for other pests.

never had a prob w zoas dipped in FW .not really sure what bug you are seeing ,but worth a shot ?see what comes off.
Would not recommend whole rock in Bayer regardless.

 

[Uncle99]

Bayer is a pesticide. It kills pests. It’s banned in many places.

Big big risk in my mind.

Your call.

 

[alanr3]

Peroxide will not work for the overall rock, it’s more of a spot treatment (other users please comment)