ATI Straton LED Light - Comments, Review, PAR, Coverage, Discuss...

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does someone know which leds are in the straton pro? I can just find how many LEDs and which color but unfortunately not the detail
 

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They make the most awesome hardware and the absolute worst software. Reminds me of my wife's BMW.
Really hope to see some software updates. I have 2 straton pro 102, and when I do live mode the light are not reeponds together at same time.
 

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you can link them together. I have the same lights and mine linked up almost automatically.
Mine also linked automatically via wifi, but when controlling on one light the respond is not at the same time. There are some pings
 

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Mine also linked automatically via wifi, but when controlling on one light the respond is not at the same time. There are some pings
I had the same issue with mine. I sold them last month I was not happy with the spectrum and the colors. (Straton 1 not the pro)
 

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Reefi, colors, spectrum, shimmer and power, pop, are way better.
Down side are the spread, shadowing and consumption. the spread was way better on the straton, even by replace on straton with two reefi you not get same even spread ( I speak for the first straton, the pro may be less also because of the lens)and the straton look much nicer. So some advantages and disadvantages on each side and unfortunately no perfect light. But I prefer the reefi they make my corals looks better,the color of the straton was to yellow for me and the blue not nice same as radions for example and a big lack of power in the blue spectrum, to much in the white.
 

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Reefi, colors, spectrum, shimmer and power, pop, are way better.
Down side are the spread, shadowing and consumption. the spread was way better on the straton, even by replace on straton with two reefi you not get same even spread ( I speak for the first straton, the pro may be less also because of the lens)and the straton look much nicer. So some advantages and disadvantages on each side and unfortunately no perfect light. But I prefer the reefi they make my corals looks better,the color of the straton was to yellow for me and the blue not nice same as radions for example and a big lack of power in the blue spectrum, to much in the white.
Seems European tanks lean more white than blue.
 

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Seems European tanks lean more white than blue.
Day time yes morning and evening not. We like to see fish and corals under natural light, white light is also believed here to be less stressful for coral and give better growth. But the white spectrum is completed often buy a large blue spectrum
 

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Does anyone have the spill data on these modules? What I mean is, for a 24"x24" square, how high up would the unit be over that surface area to start spilling over that perimeter?
 

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Hi All,

I purchased two pre-embargo ATI Straton units for testing and feedback. The two units were replacing an 8-Bulb 48" ATI Powermodule over half of my new ~340g SPS reef. I wanted to document my findings and comparison on PAR, heat, sound (none!), look, build quality, coverage, and so on. ATI didn't give me the units, and I am speaking without any obligation to them.

I will also be putting up a youtube video when I get a chance with unboxing, details on the User Interface, and such. I'll link it here when I do

Appearance:
  • Extremely sleek, about 9lbs, 18.5"x18.5"x0.5", the rest of the tech specs are here (ATI Straton Webpage)
  • New, smaller hanging kit, very similar to classic units. I had a minor issue with one of them, but I think I was using the wrong hanging wire at the time (new units use SMALLER diameter hanging wire, they come with it)
  • Power supply is a industrial Meanwell Driver shown below
  • Wireless module is in-line, small, and allows pretty easy setup, it has an ethernet port too if you dont have wifi
  • Reset hole (common design) is located on the wireless module for resetting unit
  • They made their own light power cable, which is clear/white this helps it blend in MUCH better than a black cable

4Straton.jpg

Compare to Previous T5 Lighting:
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Some shots of the hanging kit, with a quarter for size comparison:
quarterhangingkit.jpg


Heat:
  • The Straton limits power to the LEDs if the fixture reaches 58C.
  • When I first received the unit, I ran it with all LEDs at 100 percent for 8 hours in a house at about 24C (75F)
    • The units reached a MAX temp of 46C, which I still have not seen them surpass. You can track their temperature live on the UI (user interface)
    • Example:
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  • I know there will be heat concerns since the unit is passively cooled, I am telling you that I do not think this will be an issue, for anyone.
    • Even in a closed canopy, with ventilation, I believe they will be fine. They don't even feel hot to the touch, just warm on top.
    • My 8 bulb powermodule cranks out WAY more heat.
  • Worth noting, much less power is being lost to heat here than with a MH or T5
Power:
  • My units pull a maximum of 215W (advertised is 230W)
    • This is likely due to the units being designed for 220V power (Europe) and using them in the USA (110V), higher restive losses due to higher current is my hypothesis
  • To match the PAR of my 8 bulb powermodule, I had the units drawing 145W EACH, so a total of 290W.
    • I need to stress that. The 48" Powermodule draws 550W (Apex power monitoring) and to match that coverage and PAR, I am now using only 290W
Coverage/PAR:
  • The diffuser plate does an excellent job of eliminating the disco effect, and you still get some shimmer (not MH levels, but way better than flat T5 light)
  • You can control THREE SEGMENTS of the light SEPARATELY
    • Separate Spectrum, PAR, Timing on:
      • Front
      • Middle
      • Back
      • You can group all the fixtures Fronts, or all the middles or Backs in one group, or tune them all separately
      • So if you want lots of PAR in front and less in back? No problem.
      • Want to get sunset/sunrise effect? No problem.
      • This is a pretty awesome feature.
  • I initially mounted 2 Stratons over the 8 foot tank beside an 8-Bulb powermodule, and then recorded PAR measurements at 0.5", 6", 12", 18", 24" deep at several locations under each light
  • I will show those plots in the next post for:
    • Comparison 1: Full power all LEDs, T5 at full power.
    • Comparison 2: SPS/LPS spectrum used (closer to my ATI T5 spectrum), Stratons at full power (but some LEDs are turned down to achieve spectrum), T5 at full power
  • Findings Summary:
    • Straton (as expected due to size) has excellent coverage, and easily achieves high PAR levels even low in the tank, very similar to the T5, but with higher PAR (can be turned down)

Cost/Value:
  • MSRP is $1100 each
  • They say the unit will cover 30"x30" space, I can verify that. If hung higher, it would cover more just fine.
  • One could probably cover an 8 foot tank with three, but I opted for 4 in the end so that I could hang lower to minimize light spillage
  • For comparison, to get the same coverage, I would use 4-6 Radions (I would go with 6 radions since I hate shadowing), or 4 CoralCare Units
    • 6x Radion G5 XR30 ($840 each) = $5040
    • 4x G2 Coralcare ($900 each, plus $150 controller) = $3750
    • 4x ATI Straton ($1100 each) = $4400
  • So they are above Radion and Coralcare in per-unit price, but I consider them to be a solid value since they are silent, attractive (to me), and significantly more powerful than the G2 CoralCare.

UI/Setup:
  • The units come well packaged, the power cable from light to WiFi box is about 6", then another 1" to the Power supply, then a standard computer power cable to the wall
  • The units come with a standard hanging kit (like current ATI but smaller)
  • When you power the unit on, it puts out a wireless network, you just hop on that, teach it your network name/password, and then it hops on your network and you can then access it via its IP address [pretty standard]
  • No Bluetooth [I kind of hate bluetooth so this isn't a drawback for me but may be for some]
  • When you set up additional units in the same fashion on the same network, you can access ALL by accessing one (via its IP address)
  • Here is a snapshot of the UI:
  • 1601406005120.png
  • So you can see here I have 4 units now, their temperatures, the dots on the plot show the spectrum and power at each point.
  • You can use their pre-programmed spectrums, or create your own (shown here):
  • 1601406130770.png
  • Here is an example of how to group the segments of each light (it does it this way automatically):
  • 1601406181099.png
  • Then Finally you can set the time zone, wifi details, login/password (default is admin/admin), firmware update, name the light, and see the cool demo
  • 1601406333079.png


Those are my lights

What is this embargo you write of

Curious
 
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Those are my lights

What is this embargo you write of

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Hi solo, that post you quoted was several years old. Back then the original stratons were not released yet (pre-embargo). They are all out now of course.

In fact, the straton pro is out, i have 2x 204 units and plan to test them similar to my original tests.

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That's when I bought them

Early 2020. Covid was just starting

And the Stratons were hard to get

Getting ready to fire them up for the first time. Putting my Elos together, finally

I'm not upgrading until the Pro 2s come out

Back then, panel Leds were a new concept commercial wise. As a LED DIY back in the day, these were the light I wanted to make

A diffused panel light, without color separation, that gave the closest approximation to a T5 fixture. In theory
 
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Has anyone mounted these sideways so that the hanging screws all line up in a single row instead of 2 rows? I’m only mounting 2 unites, so I’m guessing. The cords meeting in the middle won’t be too ugly?

Anyone have pics of them mounted 90°?
 
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Has anyone mounted these sideways so that the hanging screws all line up in a single row instead of 2 rows? I’m only mounting 2 unites, so I’m guessing. The cords meeting in the middle won’t be too ugly?

Anyone have pics of them mounted 90°?
I am about to do that this week so ill post pics.
 

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Has anyone mounted these sideways so that the hanging screws all line up in a single row instead of 2 rows? I’m only mounting 2 unites, so I’m guessing. The cords meeting in the middle won’t be too ugly?

Anyone have pics of them mounted 90°?
 

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