2 new GIGS

[Hot2na]

As you can see: one is looking fine...the other - not so much ...

 

[bradleym]

Thank you for keeping us updated, and good luck on both.

 

[DeniseAndy]

Still crossing fingers it will be fine.

 

[OrionN]

These are infections. I would separate the one that is not doing well from the one that is doing well. Good luck.

 

[C4ctus99]

@gig 'em has done a lot of work with gigs

 

[Hot2na]

These are infections. I would separate the one that is not doing well from the one that is doing well. Good luck.

What's the point , Minh ? there's enough abx in the water everyday that they will not pass it back and forth..today will be day 6 ...I will go beyond to 10 days total ..if no improvement in the smaller by then I'll have to figure out what to do with it ...

 

[OrionN]

There are various bacterial that infect the host organism. It is an infection. The anemones may/likely have different infections and the antibiotic may not effective treat one of the anemones because it is not effective against that bacterial. The resistant strain of bacterial can infected the other anemone, given its weakened state. If this happens, you will have two anemones that are sick, and antibiotic you use is not effective against this infection.

 

[Hot2na]

still - i'm not going to try other abx on the bad one..all i have is cipro

 

[OrionN]

You don't want the one that is improving to succumb to the same infection of the one that is not improving.

 

[Hot2na]

You don't want the one that is improving to succumb to the same infection of the one that is not improving.

I understand . Cipro is a very broad spectrum ABX..it cures more than you realize..Had a magnifica with a "different" disease not long ago.. looks like it was cringing at the lights , shrivel, retracted, would ball up 3/4 day. but yet it would EAT and look better after it did..NO DEFLATE.. healthy gigs and hadoni right near it NEVER got sick .. 4 days of cipro later -it was fine..I left it in for the full 7 ...

 

[OrionN]

That was why I choose Cipro to begin with, and because it is cheap.
Still, if your anemone does not do well and died then it is not taken care of what infected this anemone. There is good potential that what ever he has he may passed it on to the anemone that is doing well. If this happened then both of your anemones die.
I always separate anemones that are not responding to treatment out of tank or HT that contains other anemones because I don’t want whatever they have spread to other anemones.

 

[Hot2na]

That was why I choose Cipro to begin with, and because it is cheap.
Still, if your anemone does not do well and died then it is not taken care of what infected this anemone. There is good potential that what ever he has he may passed it on to the anemone that is doing well. If this happened then both of your anemones die.
I always separate anemones that are not responding to treatment out of tank or HT that contains other anemones because I don’t want whatever they have spread to other anemones.

Right now they are both looking ok part of the day and deflated other part..only spewing a little black now... this will be day 7 ... not melting or falling apart yet ,,,so who knows ?

 

[gig 'em]

I definitely suggest separating them too if you can. There’s something about having two in the same hospital tank that just doesn’t work as well as treating them individually. I’ve had more problems trying to treat two in the same tank than anything else, I’d never recommend it now. I wish I had a more scientific explanation, but that’s been my experience.

 

[D-Nak]

Not to beat a dead horse, but I agree that it's better to separate the two. If one is still not looking good and is spewing dead zoox, then it can still infect the one that's looking better. I've also found that it's almost like the pathogen is like a colony of ants--once they've gotten all they can, they move onto the next location.

To use my ich analogy again, I also think the pathogen will try to attack the healthy gig, and there's a tipping point where the pathogen starts to win. If this happens and the healthy gig gets overwhelmed, you'll need to treat that one too, possibly with a different antibiotic. Septra comes to mind, but I've never had success with it. I just don't think its worth risking, and the easiest way to mitigate that is to keep them separated, ideally from day one.

 

[Hot2na]

fri will be day 10 .. i'll make some kind of move sat

 

[Hot2na]

Update : 1st one looks completely healthy now ..NO spewing stays inflated all the time ..Second still spews but much less..inflated about 80 % of the time.. I doubled last nights dose , as that helped a prior one turn the corner before ..we'll see what happens today.

 

[Hot2na]

So... yesterday one looked great , the other still spewing a tiny bit ...I decided to try feeding them ..The one that looked great devoured the piece of squid I gave it ..and looked happy ..The other that was still spewing - grabbed the piece of squid and tried for hrs to ingest it , but ultimately spit it out ..The piece of squid I fed was TOO big..I am going to move the good one today to a neutral tank all by itself , no abx and good lighting and see what happens.. the other spewing one is looking ok , and seems on the mend..so in a day or so I will cut a real small piece of squid and attempt to feed again..I was encouraged by the lengthy attempt to eat..

 

[Hot2na]

The first and healthiest one is out of qt ..in with some new buddies...

 

[Seancj]

Excellent! Well done! It looks great.

 

[Hot2na]

# 2 made it into the DT ....he was a tough one .... no more mail order gigs for a while...I'd rather wait for some of the LFS to get one in..let them take the chance, I'll just cherry pick.