125 Gallon 6 x 1.5 ft stocking

[littlefoxx]

Yeah if I did a tusk I’d have no small fish or maybe one firefish and risk it, could leave the pink streak wrasse and tiny gobies off in exchange for a tusk. Such a magnificent fish. See most say 125 gal min but some 150+. I guess each fish can grow to a different max size that impacts that.

Mine was fine in my 125 while I had her (the second one) but my dang french angel killed her and then went after my regal!

 

[softiesplease]

Mine was fine in my 125 while I had her (the second one) but my dang french angel killed her and then went after my regal!

Ugh terrible, I’d really like the avoid a scenario like that which is why I want to fully plan stock list AND addition order as best as I can.

 

[Tamberav]

They have tiny little captive bred tusks *love*

 

[softiesplease]

They have tiny little captive bred tusks *love*

Yeah this would be my preferred over wild aussie. Considering wilds are already very expensive, I’d raise a baby CB for sure

 

[littlefoxx]

Ugh terrible, I’d really like the avoid a scenario like that which is why I want to fully plan stock list AND addition order as best as I can.

Yep totally get it. I knew I was upgrading so the juv french angel was fine in there until he wasnt. Picked literally the week before I picked up the 300 gallon to start murdering fish! Just avoid aggressive fish! The angels you are looking at are more mellow, a yellow tang should be fine

 

[softiesplease]

So

If you are looking for more angels, don’t forget the Genicanthus angels. The female Bella is gorgeous imo and they can be kept in M/F pairs if that interests you.

Def like the female Bella, think I like a majestic or goldflake more though. Just saw your post saying no Tusk if I want fairy wrasse. I could pass on canary, radiant, flashers in exchange to keep a tusk but choosing between 1 tusk and 2-3 fairy wrasse + other wrasse is tough. Am I crazy if I say 1 tusk > keeping 2-3 fairies + other genus?

 

[Tamberav]

So

Def like the female Bella, think I like a majestic or goldflake more though. Just saw your post saying no Tusk if I want fairy wrasse. I could pass on canary, radiant, flashers in exchange to keep a tusk but choosing between 1 tusk and 2-3 fairy wrasse + other wrasse is tough. Am I crazy if I say 1 tusk > keeping 2-3 fairies + other genus?

I mean it’s up to you. They are all nice fish.

Maybe settle on exactly how many large fish you want for the space you have. As you have mentioned many different ones.

 

[softiesplease]

I mean it’s up to you. They are all nice fish.

Maybe settle on exactly how many large fish you want for the space you have. As you have mentioned many different ones.

Working on making an initial list right now or 2 - one with a harlequin and one with fairy wrasse

Bad idea to do both a flame and multibar dwarf angel together still in this size tank?

 

[softiesplease]

List with tusk?

• Regal Angel Small or CB
• Majestic or Goldflake Angel Small or CB
• Flame or Multibar Angel Small or CB
• Pearlscale Butterflyfish
• Spotband Butterflyfish
• Yellow Tang CB
• Harlequin Tusk Aussie Small or CB
• 
  
• Clownfish Pair CB established
• Banggai Cardinal CB prefer
• Cleaner Goby CB
• Firefish
• Pearly Jawfish
• Chalk Basslet Group CB prefer
• Royal Gramma CB prefer
• Hectors Goby (or something else more tusk-safe to turn over the sand)
• Biscuit Starfish or any tusk safe invert?

How’s that look for a tusk and no other wrasse? Would you add or change anything?

 

[softiesplease]

Reading more threads seems pretty risky to keep tusk with any of those smaller fish in second group once the tusk gets bigger?

 

[softiesplease]

How’s this?

• Harlequin Tusk Choerodon fasciatus
• Yellow Tang Zebrasoma flavescens
• Regal Angel Pygoplites diacanthus
• Goldflake Angel Apolemichthys xanthopunctatus
• Flame Angel Centropyge loricula
• Pearlscale Butterflyfish Chaetodon xanthurus
• Spotband Butterflyfish Chaetodon punctatofasciatus
• Ocellaris Clownfish Pair Amphiprion ocellaris
• Banggai Cardinal Pterapogon kauderni
• Royal Gramma Gramma loreto
• Chalk Basslet Group Serranus tortugarum
• Diamond Goby Valenciennea puellaris
• Cleaner Goby Elacatinus sp.

May still want to scratch the banggai, gramma, chalk bass, gobies because if the tusk, whatever you all think is best. Scratched Firefish and jawfish think those would be at most risk with the tusk, swapped hector for diamond. Let me know.

 

[softiesplease]

Also figure cleaner goby is ok because the fish recognize it as helpful but if I'm wrong and it will just be harassed I will remove it also

 

[softiesplease]

I’m thinking there may be better butterfly option than a pearl scale?

 

[softiesplease]

Revised list only 1 butterfly and add marine betta let me know what you think. Not sure if too many bigger fish, and also if I should remove some of the smaller fish because of the tusk.

1. Harlequin Tusk Choerodon fasciatus
2. Yellow Tang Zebrasoma flavescens
3. Regal Angel Pygoplites diacanthus
4. Goldflake Angel Apolemichthys xanthopunctatus
5. Flame Angel Centropyge loricula
6. Marine Betta Calloplesiops altivelis
7. Racoon Butterflyfish Chaetodon lunula
8. Ocellaris Clownfish Pair Amphiprion ocellaris
9. Banggai Cardinal Pterapogon kauderni
10. Royal Gramma Gramma loreto
11. Chalk Basslet Group Serranus tortugarum
12. Diamond Goby Valenciennea puellaris
13. Cleaner Goby Elacatinus oceanops

 

[threebuoys]

Good list.

I would go with 2 Banggai. They might possibly pair. Mine did. Though, they are really not that interesting to me any more because they are rather motionless except when eating.

Couple of other ideas if you decide to add to the list
One of the hawkfish varieities. They have a lot of personality.
Lawnmower Blennie. Also a lot of personality.

Maybe a convict tang. They don't get as large as some of the others. Although not a lot of color, they never stop swimming.

Also, maybe a reef-safe wrasse. They are also very active. Yellow or Melanurus or Ornate Leopard

Sometimes, the smaller fish kind of get lost in a 125. Particularly if they decide to hide in the rockwork.

 

[softiesplease]

Good list.

I would go with 2 Banggai. They might possibly pair. Mine did. Though, they are really not that interesting to me any more because they are rather motionless except when eating.

Couple of other ideas if you decide to add to the list
One of the hawkfish varieities. They have a lot of personality.
Lawnmower Blennie. Also a lot of personality.

Maybe a convict tang. They don't get as large as some of the others. Although not a lot of color, they never stop swimming.

Also, maybe a reef-safe wrasse. They are also very active. Yellow or Melanurus or Ornate Leopard

Sometimes, the smaller fish kind of get lost in a 125. Particularly if they decide to hide in the rockwork.

No more tangs I think but thanks for the suggestion. Not sure if I want to add a hawkish or a blenny. If I want to add another fish, would you think I could do both a multi bar angel with the flame angel and have 2 dwarf angels? Not sure if technically not being the same genus would help here. I could add them at the same time like I will try with the regal and goldflake.

Would absolutely add a reef safe (or not, it’s fowlr) wrasse but I removed them all because I want to add the Harlequin Tusk. If I could add a fairy or radiant wrasse before I add the tusk I’d do it but if it’s a risk when the tusk gets bigger well the tusk wins. Also just happy to add the second dwarf like I just said though.

Smaller fish I figured may get lost, but I will add the fish at the bottom of the list first to establish the tank before moving on to the top 7. I’d keep them on my list unless it’s pretty much guarantee the tusk is going to kill the chalk bass and royal gramma one day. Think the cardinal is safer. Also if no diamond goby I think need to replace with something else to turnover the sandbed. Cleaner goby I think they’ll leave alone but no clue.

Banggai Cardinal I would definitely add 2 instead of 1. I really like mine I own now I know they don’t swim much but they always catch my eye. Especially if I’m not doing the chalk bass, but even still I would add a second if it’s ok. Would be awesome to have them pair up.

 

[littlefoxx]

Revised list only 1 butterfly and add marine betta let me know what you think. Not sure if too many bigger fish, and also if I should remove some of the smaller fish because of the tusk.

1. Harlequin Tusk Choerodon fasciatus
2. Yellow Tang Zebrasoma flavescens
3. Regal Angel Pygoplites diacanthus
4. Goldflake Angel Apolemichthys xanthopunctatus
5. Flame Angel Centropyge loricula
6. Marine Betta Calloplesiops altivelis
7. Racoon Butterflyfish Chaetodon lunula
8. Ocellaris Clownfish Pair Amphiprion ocellaris
9. Banggai Cardinal Pterapogon kauderni
10. Royal Gramma Gramma loreto
11. Chalk Basslet Group Serranus tortugarum
12. Diamond Goby Valenciennea puellaris
13. Cleaner Goby Elacatinus oceanops

Looks good! Just no shrimps and crabs with the tusk. I use halloween hermits (they are bigger and more aggressive) with my predators because they pinch the crap out of fish that try to eat them lol. I think you would be okay if you really wanted to have two butterflies with this list too. Just also be aware that marine bettas can eat smaller fish like the basslet, gramma or cardinal. Mine never did and he is very chill but theres always that to watch. I also keep him well fed and he has never so much as looked at another fish as a snack. Just keep that in mind si ce its technically a grouper lol

 

[Solo McReefer]

Lion fish and scorpion fish

With some frogfish, boxfish, and puffers

 

[littlefoxx]

Also I kept a melenarus wrasse and a cleaner wrasse with my tusk, no issues. She had those teeth but was a big baby lol only tried to eat my hermits!

 

[softiesplease]

Looks good! Just no shrimps and crabs with the tusk. I use halloween hermits (they are bigger and more aggressive) with my predators because they pinch the crap out of fish that try to eat them lol. I think you would be okay if you really wanted to have two butterflies with this list too. Just also be aware that marine bettas can eat smaller fish like the basslet, gramma or cardinal. Mine never did and he is very chill but theres always that to watch. I also keep him well fed and he has never so much as looked at another fish as a snack. Just keep that in mind si ce its technically a grouper lol

I would think the risk to eat smaller fish is similar to a tusk, yes I’ll keep it in mind. The small fish aren’t dealbreakers at all for me I figured they would be a good first group to add and be ok for a while especially if I start with juveniles in the bigger fish. Will keep it in mind about Halloween hermits I have one now love it. Was thinking I’d have to go zero CUC so good there’s 1 (potential) option.

I removed a second butterflyfish for the marine betta because I didn’t know what other butterfly would fit in to this stock list out of the easy to care for ones but if you got any ideas I’m all ears.

I was just weary about another wrasse with the tusk. Also if I were to pick one to add I’d rather a fairy over a melanurus I think?

Multibar angel as I said above would be my ideal fish to add to the list if I have room and it’s ok with the flame. If it’s not I think a different second dwarf angel species would be my pick. If no way I could add any second species of dwarf I’d like to try a flame pair. I think this appeals to me more than a second butterfly or wrasse but maybe I’m wrong.