Yellow tang bullying male blue throat trigger

[Uncle99]

Walking away meaning in absence to come back and see fish shredded. A couple days is sufficient and I often state a few days, based on observations and fish after two days as advised was released and went back to it, confirming why you dont let them have at it.
We dont wait for fish to get pinned constantly to determine it’s a good time to remove it.

IME, never once, did putting an aggressor in a box have any effect on the aggression. The aggressor, when let out simply asserted themselves and their past position on the new comer.

IMM, only time allows the “resetting” of a heirarchy and there are a number of other methods which can be employed in sequence to hopefully provide a “window” of opportunity to allow this to happen, without pulling any fish.

While I would not allow a fish to kill another, I do let them decide, what the ranking will be.

In my setup, the yellow is at the bottom of the tang hierarchy, which in this case, is the exact opposite.

Then again, that’s just my way of doing things as wrong as it may be.

 

[Uncle99]

The yellow is ticked that he is in the box that’s for sure but when the majestic was in the box the yellow never went up to him or showed any aggression but once I let him out the tang was tail flapping him in a corner. Wasn’t attacking him or anything just maybe showing who the boss is but I just don’t trust it with such an expensive fish. The yellow did the same thing to the trigger but stopped after about 2 days but that’s also a trigger and very different than an angel. Since putting the tang in the box the majestic is swimming around and he was eating live brine shrimp yesterday and today.

Again, the display is not unusual at all. This is how order is set, but can be a bit uncomfortable for the reefer.

I’d be ticked as well if you put me in a box. You interfered with the hierarchy IMM.


If no damage at all (no contact) is being done, I just wait it out and reassess every hour.

First hit with damage is a pull out, otherwise let them finish the order.

When it settles, you’ll see that fast.

 

[vetteguy53081]

IME, never once, did putting an aggressor in a box have any effect on the aggression. The aggressor, when let out simply asserted themselves and their past position on the new comer.

IMM, only time allows the “resetting” of a heirarchy and there are a number of other methods which can be employed in sequence to hopefully provide a “window” of opportunity to allow this to happen, without pulling any fish.

While I would not allow a fish to kill another, I do let them decide, what the ranking will be.

In my setup, the yellow is at the bottom of the tang hierarchy, which in this case, is the exact opposite.

Then again, that’s just my way of doing things as wrong as it may be.

Theres a reason for an acclimation box and I use them without fail. Many use them with good results. They are not inhumane nor cause field issues. Thats your opinion and . Try having 6 yellows that cohabitate well as in my case and others with multiple yellows. You are in essence advising another to let them hash it out while he is concerned about his majestic as I would be also.

 

[Uncle99]

where does my post say we don’t use boxes?
Where do I say they cause any issues?

What I have said is there will come a point where the box is removed. Then we can try mirrors, lights, scape rearranging, but mostly at this point, they either work it out or die. IME, this usually happens in 1 or 2 days, otherwise there an issue.

Flashing is a guarantee on any tang addition.
It’s not something we should fear.
That’s simply part of a process that must take place.

 

[JDapper]

Would it make a difference if I put him In my sump for a day or two instead of in the acclimation box? My sump is plenty big enough

 

[NoLarvatusplease]

Yeah I’m gonna have to do something cause I also ordered a majestic angel about the same size as them but it got back ordered and should be here Tuesday. Guess I should put him in the sump for a couple days

Thats not a good combo.Especially equal sizes(assuming not small juvies)Now you have me worried about the majestic in this fray.Rule of thumb is if you want to keep semi compatibles you need a large tank where each can stake out a safe place.