Under-Inflated Anemones...

Dom · May 19, 2023

Currently, I have two tanks that contain Anemones. The first is a 125-gallon tank with sump for a total of 145 gallons. In this tank, the Anemones seem healthy except for their size; they are grossly under-inflated and have been this way since being placed in the tank. This is what they look like:

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The second tank is a total of 25 gallons between tank and sump. And this is what the Anemones in this tank look like:

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I have attached my water test results for the 125-gallon. The only difference in the water quality of the 125 and the 25 is that the 125 has no detectable nitrates, while the 25 gallon tank has nitrates of 20.

I've been supplementing https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/neon...D=4575&indexName=brs_prod_m2_default_products. in effort to get my nitrates up. Since starting this, I've developed some algae on the back of the tank, but my nitrates are only at 1.

I've also pulled my protein skimmer and all mechanical filtration, but still my nitrates are not coming up.

Not to mention that I don't know if lack of nitrates is the issue with the Anemones in question.

Any suggestions?

Thank you,
Dom

Date	Time	Salinity	pH	Nitrate	Alkalinity	Calcium	Magnesium	Notes
04/16/2023	12:00 PM	36.00	7.13	0.00	13.00	350.00	1,520.00	Pre Water Change
04/18/2023	12:00 PM	33.00	8.00	0.00	10.10	350.00	1,600.00	Post Water Change. Skimmer off to elevate Nitrates.
04/20/2023	12:00 PM	33.00	8.00	0.00	8.40	320.00	1,600.00	(40ml Foundation A - Calcium) (10ml Foundation B – Alkalinity)
04/21/2023	12:15 PM	35.00	8.01	0.00	7.60	320.00	1,600.00	(15gms baking soda – Alkalinity)
04/22/2023	12:10 PM	34.00	8.00	0.00	8.70	350.00	1,500.00	(10gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (40ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/23/2023	03:00 PM	33.00	8.05	0.00	8.10	360.00	1,600.00	(10gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (40ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/24/2023	11:30 AM	33.00	8.00	0.00	8.40	390.00	1,680.00	(10gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (40ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/25/2023	02:40 PM	34.00	8.08	0.00	9.50	420.00	1,520.00	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/26/2023	02:00 PM	35.00	8.04	0.00	8.40	400.00	1,520.00	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (30ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/27/2023	12:30 PM	34.00	8.02	x	8.70	380.00	x	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (25ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/28/2023	12:30 PM	x	8.01	x	8.40	400.00	x	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (25ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/29/2023	01:35 PM	x	8.04	x	x	x	x	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (25ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/30/2023	01:20 PM	x	8.00	x	7.80	440.00	x	(6gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (25ml Foundation A – Calcium)
05/01/2023	12:20 PM	x	x	x	8.55	620.00	x	(6gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium)
05/02/2023	11:30 AM	x	x	x	9.80	450.00	x	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium)
05/03/2023	02:00 PM	35.00	8.05	0.00	8.10	450.00	1,880.00	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (5ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/04/2023	12:40 PM	34.00	8.01	0.00	7.90	480.00	1,600.00	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (10ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/05/2023	01:10 PM	35.00	8.00	0.00	x	x	x	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (10ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/06/2023	12:00 PM	x	x	0.00	x	x	x	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (10ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/07/2023	03:10 PM	x	x	x	x	x	x	(5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (10ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/08/2023	11:10 AM	35.00	7.96	0.00	7.60	500.00	1,600.00	(6gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (15ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/09/2023	12:20 PM	35.00	8.01	1.50	7.60	500.00	1,720.00	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/10/2023	01:00 PM	x	x	x	x	x	x	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/11/2023	02:50 PM	x	x	x	x	x	x	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/12/2023	01:00 PM	x	x	x	x	x	x	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/13/2023	02:00 PM	x	x	x	x	x	x	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/14/2023	01:45 PM	x	x	x	x	x	x	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/15/2023	11:15 AM	35.00	7.97	1.00	8.10	490.00	1,680.00	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (20ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/16/2023	01:30 PM	x	x	x	x	x	x	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (5ml Foundation A – Calcium) (20ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/17/2023	02:00 PM	x	x	x	x	x	x	(7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (5ml Foundation A – Calcium) (20ml Nitro – Nitrates)

Dom · May 19, 2023

MAH · May 19, 2023

You might try posting this in the clownfish/anemone forum if you haven't already.

vetteguy53081 · May 19, 2023

Dom said:
Currently, I have two tanks that contain Anemones. The first is a 125-gallon tank with sump for a total of 145 gallons. In this tank, the Anemones seem healthy except for their size; they are grossly under-inflated and have been this way since being placed in the tank. This is what they look like:

View attachment 3156355

The second tank is a total of 25 gallons between tank and sump. And this is what the Anemones in this tank look like:

View attachment 3156360

I have attached my water test results for the 125-gallon. The only difference in the water quality of the 125 and the 25 is that the 125 has no detectable nitrates, while the 25 gallon tank has nitrates of 20.

I've been supplementing https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/neon...D=4575&indexName=brs_prod_m2_default_products. in effort to get my nitrates up. Since starting this, I've developed some algae on the back of the tank, but my nitrates are only at 1.

I've also pulled my protein skimmer and all mechanical filtration, but still my nitrates are not coming up.

Not to mention that I don't know if lack of nitrates is the issue with the Anemones in question.

Any suggestions?

Thank you,
Dom

Date Time Salinity pH Nitrate Alkalinity Calcium Magnesium Notes
04/16/2023 12:00 PM 36.00 7.13 0.00 13.00 350.00 1,520.00 Pre Water Change
04/18/2023 12:00 PM 33.00 8.00 0.00 10.10 350.00 1,600.00 Post Water Change. Skimmer off to elevate Nitrates.
04/20/2023 12:00 PM 33.00 8.00 0.00 8.40 320.00 1,600.00 (40ml Foundation A - Calcium) (10ml Foundation B – Alkalinity)
04/21/2023 12:15 PM 35.00 8.01 0.00 7.60 320.00 1,600.00 (15gms baking soda – Alkalinity)
04/22/2023 12:10 PM 34.00 8.00 0.00 8.70 350.00 1,500.00 (10gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (40ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/23/2023 03:00 PM 33.00 8.05 0.00 8.10 360.00 1,600.00 (10gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (40ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/24/2023 11:30 AM 33.00 8.00 0.00 8.40 390.00 1,680.00 (10gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (40ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/25/2023 02:40 PM 34.00 8.08 0.00 9.50 420.00 1,520.00 (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/26/2023 02:00 PM 35.00 8.04 0.00 8.40 400.00 1,520.00 (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (30ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/27/2023 12:30 PM 34.00 8.02 x 8.70 380.00 x (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (25ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/28/2023 12:30 PM x 8.01 x 8.40 400.00 x (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (25ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/29/2023 01:35 PM x 8.04 x x x x (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (25ml Foundation A – Calcium)
04/30/2023 01:20 PM x 8.00 x 7.80 440.00 x (6gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (25ml Foundation A – Calcium)
05/01/2023 12:20 PM x x x 8.55 620.00 x (6gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium)
05/02/2023 11:30 AM x x x 9.80 450.00 x (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium)
05/03/2023 02:00 PM 35.00 8.05 0.00 8.10 450.00 1,880.00 (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (5ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/04/2023 12:40 PM 34.00 8.01 0.00 7.90 480.00 1,600.00 (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (10ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/05/2023 01:10 PM 35.00 8.00 0.00 x x x (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (10ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/06/2023 12:00 PM x x 0.00 x x x (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (10ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/07/2023 03:10 PM x x x x x x (5gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (20ml Foundation A – Calcium) (10ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/08/2023 11:10 AM 35.00 7.96 0.00 7.60 500.00 1,600.00 (6gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (15ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/09/2023 12:20 PM 35.00 8.01 1.50 7.60 500.00 1,720.00 (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/10/2023 01:00 PM x x x x x x (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/11/2023 02:50 PM x x x x x x (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/12/2023 01:00 PM x x x x x x (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/13/2023 02:00 PM x x x x x x (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/14/2023 01:45 PM x x x x x x (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (15ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/15/2023 11:15 AM 35.00 7.97 1.00 8.10 490.00 1,680.00 (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (10ml Foundation A – Calcium) (20ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/16/2023 01:30 PM x x x x x x (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (5ml Foundation A – Calcium) (20ml Nitro – Nitrates)
05/17/2023 02:00 PM x x x x x x (7gms baking soda – Alkalinity) (5ml Foundation A – Calcium) (20ml Nitro – Nitrates)

The anemones look good. Its not6 always do bubble-tips inflate. The concern is color and eating and yours look ok other than the typical bulbs we often by them to enjoy

Dom · May 19, 2023

vetteguy53081 said:
The anemones look good. Its not6 always do bubble-tips inflate. The concern is color and eating and yours look ok other than the typical bulbs we often by them to enjoy

So you're saying that this could be normal?

I was thinking about moving them to the 25 and see if they inflate. This would be a good way to tell if it was water quality.

Dom · May 19, 2023

MAH said:
You might try posting this in the clownfish/anemone forum if you haven't already.

Hadn't thought of that. Typically, I post here because of the high volume of traffic.

vetteguy53081 · May 19, 2023

Dom said:
So you're saying that this could be normal?

I was thinking about moving them to the 25 and see if they inflate. This would be a good way to tell if it was water quality.

Mine come and go with inflation but not inflated for the most part over two years

FoolishWizard · May 19, 2023

I think the nems in your 125 look much happier. Nice color, nice bulbs.

Nman · May 19, 2023

You carnt second guess them
In the photo they look fine . The only things to watch out for are gaping mouth for a length of time. Not able to foot anything and bits dropping off them . My nems close up at night and open up during the day . I feed them once a week with mysis and look to see if there eating. Yours look healthy and happy .
Dom is your nitrate 0
My nitrate is 10 and phosphate 0.03
I’ve read a lot of people saying nems like some nitrate and phosphate this only my experience with them

Dom · May 19, 2023

FoolishWizard said:
I think the nems in your 125 look much happier. Nice color, nice bulbs.

I felt they were looking small.

Dom · May 19, 2023

Nman said:
Dom is your nitrate 0
My nitrate is 10 and phosphate 0.03
I’ve read a lot of people saying nems like some nitrate and phosphate this only my experience with them

Yes, I've read the same. It is why I've pulled my protein skimmer and started adding Nitro. I'd like to get my Nitrates up to 20, which is where the 25 gallon tank currently sits.