Turtle's Deep Blue Sea

[Scurvy]

Stumbled across this place over the weekend. Never heard of them but google reviews were pretty good and prices were nice. You pick your warranty and pay for it which is different.

https://fishybusinessaquatics.com/fish/wrasse-reef-safe

 

[sfin52]

That’s a nice site. Great find.

@mlf74 welcome to reef2reef.

 

[najer]

Oh now America wakes up!
<<< snuck in earlier and pilfered the Turtles' rum, so there!

 

[SashimiTurtle]

I’ve been trying to read everything in this thread but it’s a long one. But a good one! Was trying to find a front tank shot FTS, or some pics / info about your equipment? Thanks!

Hi @mfl74, that's a lot of reading... I can summarize for you.

The tank is a Deep Blue Professional 35g cube. The stand is from the same company, but I refinished the outside and primered the inside. Somebody *cough* @Katrina71, didn't like all black.

Equipment list...

Sump: Eshopps Cube Nano
Heater: Cobalt Neotherm 200W
Skimmer: Bubble Magus Curve 5
Return: Sicce Silent 3.0
Lighting: Kessil A160WE x2
Flow: Icecap 1K gyre
I also have an Amazon special titanium ground probe on a GFCI outlet in the display tank.

Wet goods...

25lbs live rock... purchased wet, encrusted with coralline and some hitchhiker polyps and one mushroom
20lbs CaribSea Hawaiian black sand... this is a new addition. We did have around 30lbs of the Tahitian Moon sand but we had 7 months of dead coral and high metal leaching from it. That discovery isn't buried too far. Happened last week.
6lbs Fiji mud... I'm not sure I can say too much about this stuff just yet. I have zero negatives and the one positive is the "tank uglies" completely disappeared a few weeks after adding it. Coincidentally or not, I'm adding it to my next system too.

Livestock

We've had an eclectic assortment of fish in the past, and a lot of losses too. Most I attribute to the sand and metals issues we had. Currently swimming in the Deep Blue Sea are as follows...

Cirrhilabrus lubbocki, multicolor fairy wrasse
Cirrhilabrus brunneus, dusky fairy wrasse
Centropyge bispinosa, coral beauty angelfish
Gymnothorax melatremus, Hawaiian golden dwarf moray

Previous inhabitants that are still living, just in time out...
Amphiprion ocellaris, darwin ocy clownfish pair(hates coral beauties)
Chrysiptera springeri, sapphire damsel(hates fairy wrasse)

CUC is a mix of astrea, Florida cerith, dwarf cerith, nassarius snails, nerite snails(when they stay in the tank), assorted hermits and one very large Florida fighting conch. Oh and I guess my coral beauty technically counts as CUC.

Here is a FTS from just a few minutes ago... popped the lights on low for a sec to get a good pic. Its all blue and low intensity.

 

[Fudsey]

Stumbled across this place over the weekend. Never heard of them but google reviews were pretty good and prices were nice. You pick your warranty and pay for it which is different.

https://fishybusinessaquatics.com/fish/wrasse-reef-safe

Wow @Scurvy NICE find ! ! !

 

[Fudsey]

So, a yellow coris wrasse is not reef safe??? Interesting, I thought they were...

 

[SashimiTurtle]

So, a yellow coris wrasse is not reef safe??? Interesting, I thought they were...

First I've heard... probably referring to it's tendency to eat ornamental shrimp... but then most ornamental shrimp are evil and aren't reef safe either.

"But Turtle I've had shrimp in my tank for years and they don't hurt anything..."

Feed your LPS and watch your shrimp rip the food out of their mouths. Fish are friends, shrimp are foods.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Stumbled across this place over the weekend. Never heard of them but google reviews were pretty good and prices were nice. You pick your warranty and pay for it which is different.

https://fishybusinessaquatics.com/fish/wrasse-reef-safe

Been scrolling thru... I may order some from them when I get my new tank set up.

 

[Scurvy]

Yeah, Im kinda stumped how we've never heard of them based on what I see... I was looking hard for an Attenuatus this weekend and alomst settled for the Angular they have listed but decided against it.

Its kinda like flying southwest in that its bare bones pricing, you pay for whatever warranty term you want and shipping rates are based on total spend. Like adding bags to airfare. I may want a 30 day warranty on one fish but only want 7 on another. Different.

 

[sfin52]

Agree with the shrimp I do. I had a skunk and I would spot feed it and feed the Duncan’s. It would drop its food and try to destroy the Duncans by ripping food out of its stomach. Never again will I put shrimp in my reef.

 

[Scurvy]

So, a yellow coris wrasse is not reef safe??? Interesting, I thought they were...

They are for the most part. I think even live aquaria has them in the Non Reef safe side. Anything Halichoeres they tend to say is Fish only but most are fine in a reef. Often desired for pest control.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Yeah, Im kinda stumped how we've never heard of them based on what I see... I was looking hard for an Attenuatus this weekend and alomst settled for the Angular they have listed but decided against it.

Its kinda like flying southwest in that its bare bones pricing, you pay for whatever warranty term you want and shipping rates are based on total spend. Like adding bags to airfare. I may want a 30 day warranty on one fish but only want 7 on another. Different.

Turtles weren't made for flying, bro...

I think I understand what you're saying tho. Get the 30 day warranty on the black leopard wrasse or the lineatus, not the radiant.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

They are for the most part. I think even live aquaria has them in the Non Reef safe side. Anything Halichoeres they tend to say is Fish only but most are fine in a reef. Often desired for pest control.

Yep, LA has them on the fish only wrasse list. Great at getting rid of flat worms.

 

[Scurvy]

Yep you nailed it!

 

[SashimiTurtle]

We got new toys!

 

[Zack K]

Yep, LA has them on the fish only wrasse list. Great at getting rid of flat worms.

All the the wrasses considered “with caution” are under the “fish only” because their not 100% reef safe.

 

[Scurvy]

All the the wrasses considered “with caution” are under the “fish only” because their not 100% reef safe.

I would argue theyre 100% reef safe but a 50/50 toss up when it comes to snail/hermit/shrimp safe Personally seeing them knock off a snail or hermit here and there is all part of the fun to me.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

All the the wrasses considered “with caution” are under the “fish only” because their not 100% reef safe.

I would argue theyre 100% reef safe but a 50/50 toss up when it comes to snail/hermit/shrimp safe Personally seeing them knock off a snail or hermit here and there is all part of the fun to me.

Go buy a few ghost shrimp and watch your fairy wrasse go insane trying to figure out how to eat them... wrasse eat shrimp and pests, some may be more prone than others, but its natural. I've seen my fairy wrasse peck at frag plugs and the rock occasionally... gotta be some little invert there its eating.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

No more fishies, jumping out the tank. Build and assembly wasnt hard. Just remember what I always say, measure once cut twice...

It's just resting on the glass, but it would take a very large wrasse like a harlequin tusk to dislodge it from the Kessil mounts. I have them pinched in the gap in the back.

Yea, I'm not thrilled about that, but its as narrow as the parts would allow... maybe one of those zig zag kits they sell would have been closer. They have to swim past a return pipe and a gyre to make it thru there anyway.

 

[Scurvy]

Looks good! I think the Gyre will work well enough as a guard. Odds of them having the right angle/speed to hit the gap are slim. I won't say never cuz you know how that goes.