Triton core 7 be

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Update
Kh is at 8.1 but still increasing dosing amount , 24ml currently

Today was time to replenish kh fluids and bought a new batch, mixed it up and it looked like this below

Lfs said warm it up , tried and was same results
2-3 hours mixing it and sediment still settled about 1/10th of the bottles

Got the lfs to mix another batch they had in stock and it was perfect , no warming nothing just as it should be

Now the bad batch is returned and the “good” ( debatable) batch is online ready to test its strength against my finished bottles

Anyone else had this experience?

Oh for the record I’m depleting ( because I was checking kh since this morning ) 2.5kh per day which is coincidental I think ( or maybe triton did this on purpose) that 1ml = .1 kh

Now I have that figured out I can manipulate my kh without guessing what the result will be

Sure there was no calcium leftovers in that jug, and that you mixed at recommended potency? How much solid in how much liquid?

 

[scotty333]

Sure there was no calcium leftovers in that jug, and that you mixed at recommended potency? How much solid in how much liquid?

Calcium didn’t get changed , it was a straight swop from 3a and 3b
Mixed same as last time , 1ltr ro and mix

In 1 bottle it was undissolved powder and the other was crystals I’d say about 10-15% sediment in the bottle after leaving 2 hours

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Calcium didn’t get changed , it was a straight swop from 3a and 3b
Mixed same as last time , 1ltr ro and mix

In 1 bottle it was undissolved powder and the other was crystals I’d say about 10-15% sediment in the bottle after leaving 2 hours

How much did did you add to how much liquid?

 

[scotty333]

How much did did you add to how much liquid?

It’s a 1x4 ltr box , calcium and mag are premixed so you just add I think actually it’s 950ml with 50g being powder

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

It’s a 1x4 ltr box , calcium and mag are premixed so you just add I think actually it’s 950ml with 50g being powder

50 g of sodium bicarbonate or sodium carbonate in a liter of pure water is a fairly weak dosing solution and if used, should easily dissolve.

 

[scotty333]

50 g of sodium bicarbonate or sodium carbonate in a liter of pure water is a fairly weak dosing solution and if used, should easily dissolve.

Hmmm was just a guess boss , maybe it’s 100 and 900 then
I’ll have a mooch on the net see if I can find correctly sorry for guessing though

 

[scotty333]

This is all I could find

Mixing Core7 Base Elements:

Solution 1 - Transfer contents into a 1L dosing container and it is ready to go!

Solution 2 - Transfer contents into a 1L dosing container and it is ready to go!

Solution 3A - Add 0.5 Liters of RODI water to a 1L dosing container. Add the contents of 3A and top off the container with RODI water.

Solution 3B - Add 0.5 Liters of RODI water to a 1L dosing container. Add the contents of 3B and top off the container with RODI water.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I was mostly asking to see if you followed the right recipe, not so much what the recipe was.

 

[scotty333]

I was mostly asking to see if you followed the right recipe, not so much what the recipe was.

The right recipe is vague , add .5 ltr , mix then top up to 1 ltr and add to vessel/ container

 

[ReneReef]

The right recipe is vague , add .5 ltr , mix then top up to 1 ltr and add to vessel/ container

No it's not vague. It's specific. And for a good reason.

The minerals take up space. If you would add the powder to 1 liter of water, you end up with more than one 1 liter and a solution that is less potent than the dosing instructions call for. Therefore it is important to dissolve in less than one liter and fill up to the 1 liter mark afterwards.

Triton uses sodium carbonate. To reach the advertised potency (9750 KH in 1L) it takes 184,3 grams per liter.

The instructions also specify correctly to first take half of the water and add the powder to the water. Not the other way around like you suggest here.

Besides contamination of the mixing vessel, if the water you used for the one bottle was colder (below room temp) than for the other, that could explain what happened. Solubility decreases with temperature.

 

[scotty333]

No it's not vague. It's specific. And for a good reason.

The minerals take up space. If you would add the powder to 1 liter of water, you end up with more than one 1 liter and a solution that is less potent than the dosing instructions call for. Therefore it is important to dissolve in less than one liter and fill up to the 1 liter mark afterwards.

Triton uses sodium carbonate. To reach the advertised potency (9750 KH in 1L) it takes 184,3 grams per liter.

The instructions also specify correctly to first take half of the water and add the powder to the water. Not the other way around like you suggest here.

Besides contamination of the mixing vessel, if the water you used for the one bottle was colder (below room temp) than for the other, that could explain what happened. Solubility decreases with temperature.

Complete crap, did the same procedure last batch with no problems, you can’t get more than 1 litre in the cartons and no matter how you mix it , will mix it don’t mix
In my case didn’t mix
Also, tried warming it to 30 degrees with 0 difference

Jury’s out on this I’m afraid

 

[ReneReef]

Complete crap

Thank you.

Jury’s out on this I’m afraid

Yes, then I'm afraid as well.

 

[scotty333]

Oh yeah and just to add to my incompetence I’ve had to half my dose from 24ml to 12 because of a completely weaker solution , how did I manage that I wonder?

Tim@triton I’d love to hear your thoughts and the dilute it with another ltr isn’t an answer when you say you can actually mix both parts a+b together to reduce doser heads

I can’t imagine for 1 minute that would dissolve

 

[Christian0505]

I just buy the 5L pre mixed jerrycans. Works amazing for me has a higher potency as well.

 

[scotty333]

I just buy the 5L pre mixed jerrycans. Works amazing for me has a higher potency as well.

More concentrated than core7 ? They say it’s the highest concentration on the market
Is it with trace or just straight calc,mag,alk?

 

[ReneReef]

You are making absolutely no sense anymore.

3a and b contain both exactly the same. 9750 KH/L no matter the shape or size of the packaging. The powder packaging mixes to the same strength.

The instructions to combine 3a and b say to combine the mixed fluids in one container and dose twice the amount from that single container. So if you dose 10 mL from 3a and 3b separately, then you dose 20 mL from the container containing both 3a and b. In other words, a 4 times 1 liter set would become 2 times 1 liter and 1 time 2 liter.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Tim@triton I’d love to hear your thoughts and the dilute it with another ltr isn’t an answer when you say you can actually mix both parts a+b together to reduce doser heads

I can’t imagine for 1 minute that would dissolve

FWIW, that means combine the fluids, not the solids in the fluid for just 1 of them.

 

[Christian0505]

More concentrated than core7 ? They say it’s the highest concentration on the market
Is it with trace or just straight calc,mag,alk?

It’s the same stuff, core7 base elements. Concentration is 5,13ml for 1 dkh per 100L

Core7 Base Elements 5L Set Method

5 Liters of Each Base Element Component and No Mixing Required! Top off your dosing vessels or dose straight out of the jugs! 5L Bulk Set Includes: 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 1 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 2 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 3A 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 3B...

www.bulkreefsupply.com

 

[scotty333]

It’s the same stuff, core7 base elements. Concentration is 5,13ml for 1 dkh per 100L

Core7 Base Elements 5L Set Method

5 Liters of Each Base Element Component and No Mixing Required! Top off your dosing vessels or dose straight out of the jugs! 5L Bulk Set Includes: 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 1 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 2 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 3A 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 3B...

www.bulkreefsupply.com

I’ll get that next batch should work out cheaper and idiot proof ha

 

[scotty333]

It’s the same stuff, core7 base elements. Concentration is 5,13ml for 1 dkh per 100L

Core7 Base Elements 5L Set Method

5 Liters of Each Base Element Component and No Mixing Required! Top off your dosing vessels or dose straight out of the jugs! 5L Bulk Set Includes: 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 1 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 2 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 3A 5L Pre-Mixed Core7 Base Elements 3B...

www.bulkreefsupply.com

Are you saying it’s 20ml to raise 1kh in a 400ltr ?
I was adding 12ml to stabilise with 3 kh useage