Suspecting Metals/Chlorine in LFS Water. Should I Use Contitioner?

[Thespammailaccount]

Strange. And I'm skeptical it was ammonia. How much ammonia was there? How big of a water change? new salt water generally has some ammonia from the salt.

If there is ammonia in the effluent, that's a sign that the DI was inadequate. Ammonia is among the first things to be released when a di depletes. My RO/DI removes ammonia just fine until the di depletes.

Do not think the ammonia is coming from the salt I use which is Red Sea since new salt water and tank water reads zero ammonia

 

[Thespammailaccount]

Strange. And I'm skeptical it was ammonia. How much ammonia was there? How big of a water change? new salt water generally has some ammonia from the salt.

If there is ammonia in the effluent, that's a sign that the DI was inadequate. Ammonia is among the first things to be released when a di depletes. My RO/DI removes ammonia just fine until the di depletes.

Strange. And I'm skeptical it was ammonia. How much ammonia was there? How big of a water change? new salt water generally has some ammonia from the salt.

If there is ammonia in the effluent, that's a sign that the DI was inadequate. Ammonia is among the first things to be released when a di depletes. My RO/DI removes ammonia just fine until the di depletes.

Interesting. You are skeptical it is ammonia. From my understanding chloramine is formed by adding ammonia to chlorine. My ammonia test kit shows that there is ammonia in the water. If it is not ammonia the test kit is showing what do you think it is? I remember you saying that you live in an area that treats with chloramines. Have you noticed any tissue necrosis? The frags at the local fish stores in my area look horrible. I wonder if there is a correlation? Just speculation I have not done an empirical study to determine if there is a relation. I do not use water from the tap or from my 7 stage rodi with pre rodi chloramine filter. To be honest I would not offer either to my cat yet alone my reef tank. I use distilled. From a purity standpoint steam distillation is the purest water you can find. My reasoning is if reefing is about water keeping then my tank will be distilled. But of course to each is own. Here is some pictures of my four month old reef tank

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Interesting. You are skeptical it is ammonia. From my understanding chloramine is formed by adding ammonia to chlorine. My ammonia test kit shows that there is ammonia in the water. If it is not ammonia the test kit is showing what do you think it is? I remember you saying that you live in an area that treats with chloramines. Have you noticed any tissue necrosis?

You misunderstood what I meant, and didn't answer my questions to try to understand your situation about the ammonia level you detected and how big your water changes were.

I know the breakdown of chloramine produces ammonia.

I know a depleting DI can release this ammonia. Some might get through for other reasons as well, such as channelling of the water through the DI.

-What I am skeptical of is that there is enough ammonia in the fresh water to cause a problem with corals just from top off (extremely unlikely) or water changes (only possible if they are pretty big). There is a big dilution factor in both cases, a massive one for top off.

You also say there is no ammonia in your new salt water. Do you not make it with this fresh water?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Yes, many people, myself included, use tap water with chloramine in it as our source water for our RO/DI, and our systems remove it adequately so the aquaria are fine.

Once I let my DI get depleted. In that case, there was so much ammonia in my limewater (kalkwasser4) that I could smell it. But it normal use, everything was fine.

 

[Thespammailaccount]

You misunderstood what I meant, and didn't answer my questions to try to understand your situation about the ammonia level you detected and how big your water changes were.

I know the breakdown of chloramine produces ammonia.

I know a depleting DI can release this ammonia. Some might get through for other reasons as well, such as channelling of the water through the DI.

-What I am skeptical of is that there is enough ammonia in the fresh water to cause a problem with corals just from top off (extremely unlikely) or water changes (only possible if they are pretty big). There is a big dilution factor in both cases, a massive one for top off.

You also say there is no ammonia in your new salt water. Do you not make it with this fresh water?

You misunderstood what I meant, and didn't answer my questions to try to understand your situation about the ammonia level you detected and how big your water changes were.

I know the breakdown of chloramine produces ammonia.

I know a depleting DI can release this ammonia. Some might get through for other reasons as well, such as channelling of the water through the DI.

-What I am skeptical of is that there is enough ammonia in the fresh water to cause a problem with corals just from top off (extremely unlikely) or water changes (only possible if they are pretty big). There is a big dilution factor in both cases, a massive one for top off.

You also say there is no ammonia in your new salt water. Do you not make it with this fresh water?

Sorry just frustrated that I could not figure out the issue I was having with my RODI unit. I stopped using the RODI last year and have only been using distilled water since.

I was having an issue with the previous tank the 10 gallon. Corals would look good until I did a water change. I think the ammonia was breaking down and increasing the nitrates so I was doing large water changes probably 20% once or twice a week. Could not get quality water out of the rodi and was changing all filters and resin monthly. Tried different filters tried to make sure the resin was packed but then ammonia started showing up in the product water. I keep getting recommendations and keep putting money into the system. Have invested almost a grand. I gave up putting money into it and have not used the rodi unit since last year.

The new tank the 70 gallon is all distilled. The pictures are of the new tank the 70 gallon. Water changes and top off are done with distilled water. This tank is nothing like the ten gallon. Yet to see any algae on the rocks sand is clean corals look great. Don’t even need to do water changes as far as perimeters go but do just to say I did usually 5%-7% per week. I dose cal alk and mag and trace elements.

 

[Thespammailaccount]

Yes, many people, myself included, use tap water with chloramine in it as our source water for our RO/DI, and our systems remove it adequately so the aquaria are fine.

Once I let my DI get depleted. In that case, there was so much ammonia in my limewater (kalkwasser4) that I could smell it. But it normal use, everything was fine.

I just don’t know I was replacing all filters and di monthly which was more than a hundred bucks. I gave up last year trying to figure out the rodi. Which is for sale if anyone is interested. Now I just have distilled water delivered and have called it a day