Start of Ich?

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I have owned tanks for a minute now and have never dealt with inch of any kind, I recently received some fish from a local hobbyist that was getting out of the hobby which I think to be the culprits. The question is this the start of ich? As of rn he’s the only one with the white dots, my blue hippie nor any of the others have it besides this orange fish (no white dots) just having an odd mass on one of his fins. If so how do I go about starting to treat this? What about corals and anemones can they host the disease also? Can I medicate the main tank as of which they are all in and just take care of it that way or will that harm corals? Just need a simple run down as I have other tanks I can move them too (none have water nor have not been cycled, how do I get around this?) just worried about the main.
 

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A singular white mass on one of the fish especially after a recent transfer is often a viral disease called lymphocystitis. It's completely benign and could be considered essentially fish cold sores. A picture would be helpful though
 
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I have owned tanks for a minute now and have never dealt with inch of any kind, I recently received some fish from a local hobbyist that was getting out of the hobby which I think to be the culprits. The question is this the start of ich? As of rn he’s the only one with the white dots, my blue hippie nor any of the others have it besides this orange fish (no white dots) just having an odd mass on one of his fins. If so how do I go about starting to treat this? What about corals and anemones can they host the disease also? Can I medicate the main tank as of which they are all in and just take care of it that way or will that harm corals? Just need a simple run down as I have other tanks I can move them too (none have water nor have not been cycled, how do I get around this?) just worried about the main.
For starters, quarantine would have alleviated this as you now apparently have a fully infected tank. Enough of the speech.
Please post pics of the fish and what you believe is ich under white lighy intensity.
If ich, you will have to treat all fish in a separate tank or container for a full 30 days using coppersafe at therapeutic level 2.25 for a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored by a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.
The display tank will have to be kept fishless (FALLOW) for 6-8 weeks to assure the existing parasites go through their life cycle without a host fish and die off and with occupants exposed, they too should go into quarantine
A quarantine tank can be as simple as a tank from a second hand store, a rubbermaid type tub or a starter kit from Walmart which most of the needed essentials.
 

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It’s not showing that I attached the photos so here they are again! Thanks
this may be fungal rather than ich - Need brighter pics
 

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A singular white mass on one of the fish especially after a recent transfer is often a viral disease called lymphocystitis. It's completely benign and could be considered essentially fish cold sores. A picture would be helpful though
I disagree with this as secondary bacterial, mucus cones and fungal can all occur and be confused with ich. Lympho common with butterflies and Angels mainly and sporadic with other fish
 

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Being that this is a molly, the cost of treatment is often more than the price of a new fish but would be the choice you make but I would pull it before it spreads to others.
 
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Being that this is a molly, the cost of treatment is often more than the price of a new fish but would be the choice you make but I would pull it before it spreads to others.
I am currently at work and won’t be back until later would it be ok for a couple of hours or should I get someone to get it out now?
 

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I am currently at work and won’t be back until later would it be ok for a couple of hours or should I get someone to get it out now?
As soon as you can- I would not deem removal an emergency
 

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I think this is absolutely a long term case of marine ich, Cryptocaryon. It will need to be dealt with ASAP - either with coppersafe or hyposalinity (neither of those can be done with invertebrates in the tank though).
 
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As soon as you can- I would not deem removal an emergency
This is the update with just only white light, disregard the tank it’s my only other one I have at the moment that is at the end of its cycle. The white spots are still there just not as bad as I thought. This is also 3 different mollies.

** I just put them in there for about five minutes, long enough to take the pics and move them after realizing if it is ich, I just moved it to my nano tank (has nothing in it)... but will now have to wait if it is the case**
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Clear pics- looks to be crypto but shredded fins also suggest aggression from tankmates. This fish requires treatment but a freshwater treatment would be acceptable or returning fish to freshwater environment
 
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Clear pics- looks to be crypto but shredded fins also suggest aggression from tankmates. This fish requires treatment but a freshwater treatment would be acceptable or returning fish to freshwater environment
So I should pull out my tang, two blennys, and jeweled damsel? What about hermets, snails, anemones, and any corals? Sorry never dealt with this!
 
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