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[billyocean]

Woo crazy night. Got a call at 1AM from a drunk PTSD veteran police officer BIL trying to make some very bad decisions. Took 3 hours to get him to calm down. Hoping this is the wake up call he needs to quit drinking again.

Good job taking the time!

 

[Kasrift]

Woo crazy night. Got a call at 1AM from a drunk PTSD veteran police officer BIL trying to make some very bad decisions. Took 3 hours to get him to calm down. Hoping this is the wake up call he needs to quit drinking again.

Lots of love there to spend the time chatting with him. Best of luck getting through the day with less sleep. Hopefully your BIL gets the help he needs.

 

[sadrobotz]

Woo crazy night. Got a call at 1AM from a drunk PTSD veteran police officer BIL trying to make some very bad decisions. Took 3 hours to get him to calm down. Hoping this is the wake up call he needs to quit drinking again.

oof, sorry man, those calls are never fun. thanks for taking the time to speak with him, when i was running and gunning like a lunatic those that took the time to listen to me mattered immensely.

 

[woodyarmadillo]

Good job taking the time!

About the only thing you can do when someone like that is in the place they are is listen until they tire themselves out enough to go to sleep.

Outstandingly nice guy that dealt with a lot of trauma in the military. He had some close calls and quit for a couple years and it sounds like things slowly have been ramping back up again.

The scariest thing about drinking to me is seeing how confident a person can get about the actions they are taking when drunk. You know that when that person sobers up, they will immediately realize that they weren’t thinking clearly but it’s impossible to get the person to understand that when they’re drunk.

Add that to someone that has a lot of military experience, experience in very rough neighborhoods as a police officer and extreme PTSD and it gets scary.

Thankful that the rest of the night was uneventful for sure.

 

[woodyarmadillo]

Pre-Malone says drink responsibly kids and if you ever notice that things are getting out of control, it’s time to re-evaluate how the booze is treating you.

 

[woodyarmadillo]

@billyocean aside from the KZ dosing products (1,2,3,4, vitalyzer, acro grow, etc.) you mentioned, do you feed anything else to your corals regularly like reef roids or anything?

 

[woodyarmadillo]

 

[Rennurdoar]

Woo crazy night. Got a call at 1AM from a drunk PTSD veteran police officer BIL trying to make some very bad decisions. Took 3 hours to get him to calm down. Hoping this is the wake up call he needs to quit drinking again.

Thank you for being there, and able to take that call. It's not easy, and I've lost good friends already to that S word. I hope he gets the help he needs to get back to a comfortable place.

The biggest thing needed, is support. Thank you for giving that to him. To many of my brothers and sisters from service have taken that route. I'm lucky that I've had some great family and friends to help me through my struggles.

 

[woodyarmadillo]

Thank you for being there, and able to take that call. It's not easy, and I've lost good friends already to that S word. I hope he gets the help he needs to get back to a comfortable place.

The biggest thing needed, is support. Thank you for giving that to him. To many of my brothers and sisters from service have taken that route. I'm lucky that I've had some great family and friends to help me through my struggles.

It’s a complicated thing because it seems like the service teaches people how to be leaders and face their fears but the whole atmosphere seems to lead to a widespread belief that asking for help is a major weakness. I really wish we took care of our veterans better after they got out of the service. Off the top of my head, I have 7 people in my life that are veterans. 6/7 of them have pretty major PTSD issues. Several of them are on disability, which was a struggle to get, but none of them have ever tried to seek any help from a therapist or medications or anything like that. The thought of asking for help makes them very uncomfortable. The other interesting thing is how different people live their lives after experiencing trauma in the military. My Brother is on 90% disability. He came back with extreme tremors (neck twitches every few seconds), sleep apnea to the point of waking up dozens of times an hour. He would stop breathing frequently and wake up gasping for air over and over and over. Usual nightmares and other things too. My brother is a hermit. He is on full disability, he rarely leaves his house and will spend months doing nothing but watching Tv. He had many opportunities including an awesome job at Microsoft, but when things become a serious commitment, he seems to purposely evade/run away from the situation in extreme ways.

My BiL is very active. He got back and stashed firearms in every nook and cranny in the house. He will not go anywhere without a firearm and won’t fly because he can’t have a firearm on his person while he flys. He actively pursued a career as a police officer in the most dangerous areas on the night shift. It’s almost as if the chaos makes him feel comfortable.

Sorry, talking about this a lot, but it’s important to me. I was not in the service but I see a lot of veterans around me feeling alone and too proud to ask for help so I like to talk about it whenever I can.

 

[steveschuerger]

It’s a complicated thing because it seems like the service teaches people how to be leaders and face their fears but the whole atmosphere seems to lead to a widespread belief that asking for help is a major weakness. I really wish we took care of our veterans better after they got out of the service. Off the top of my head, I have 7 people in my life that are veterans. 6/7 of them have pretty major PTSD issues. Several of them are on disability, which was a struggle to get, but none of them have ever tried to seek any help from a therapist or medications or anything like that. The thought of asking for help makes them very uncomfortable. The other interesting thing is how different people live their lives after experiencing trauma in the military. My Brother is on 90% disability. He came back with extreme tremors (neck twitches every few seconds), sleep apnea to the point of waking up dozens of times an hour. He would stop breathing frequently and wake up gasping for air over and over and over. Usual nightmares and other things too. My brother is a hermit. He is on full disability, he rarely leaves his house and will spend months doing nothing but watching Tv. He had many opportunities including an awesome job at Microsoft, but when things become a serious commitment, he seems to purposely evade/run away from the situation in extreme ways.

My BiL is very active. He got back and stashed firearms in every nook and cranny in the house. He will not go anywhere without a firearm and won’t fly because he can’t have a firearm on his person while he flys. He actively pursued a career as a police officer in the most dangerous areas on the night shift. It’s almost as if the chaos makes him feel comfortable.

Sorry, talking about this a lot, but it’s important to me. I was not in the service but I see a lot of veterans around me feeling alone and too proud to ask for help so I like to talk about it whenever I can.

Not the same but kinda same I guess. My mother had a bipolar break when I was 10 and developed a very bad alcohol problem . Mental illness in all its forms is a rough cross to bear, particularly in that just as veterans are pretty much left to either fend for themselves or given minimal guidance from the institutions that supposedly are there for help, there is too little proactive action taken to help. The best things you can do is exactly what you have been doin, just be there and be a supportive ear to lend out. It’s up to him to make the next steps and hopefully as you say it’s a wake-up call. My mom had almost 6 years of periodic in-patient treatment and many medication changes for her bipolar and fortunately was able to quit drinking for the rest of her life. i‘ve worked in-patient myself for 39 years and and can say as long as he wants the help your BiL will succeed in turning things around, cause I’ve seen it happen in family and work.
p.s.: if you want, and feel like you need another friendly ear just DM me. I’m always willing help a friend out.

 

[AKL1950]

It’s a complicated thing because it seems like the service teaches people how to be leaders and face their fears but the whole atmosphere seems to lead to a widespread belief that asking for help is a major weakness. I really wish we took care of our veterans better after they got out of the service. Off the top of my head, I have 7 people in my life that are veterans. 6/7 of them have pretty major PTSD issues. Several of them are on disability, which was a struggle to get, but none of them have ever tried to seek any help from a therapist or medications or anything like that. The thought of asking for help makes them very uncomfortable. The other interesting thing is how different people live their lives after experiencing trauma in the military. My Brother is on 90% disability. He came back with extreme tremors (neck twitches every few seconds), sleep apnea to the point of waking up dozens of times an hour. He would stop breathing frequently and wake up gasping for air over and over and over. Usual nightmares and other things too. My brother is a hermit. He is on full disability, he rarely leaves his house and will spend months doing nothing but watching Tv. He had many opportunities including an awesome job at Microsoft, but when things become a serious commitment, he seems to purposely evade/run away from the situation in extreme ways.

My BiL is very active. He got back and stashed firearms in every nook and cranny in the house. He will not go anywhere without a firearm and won’t fly because he can’t have a firearm on his person while he flys. He actively pursued a career as a police officer in the most dangerous areas on the night shift. It’s almost as if the chaos makes him feel comfortable.

Sorry, talking about this a lot, but it’s important to me. I was not in the service but I see a lot of veterans around me feeling alone and too proud to ask for help so I like to talk about it whenever I can.

PTSD can be a life long struggle. I suffered from Complex PTSD from childhood. Being in the military actually helped me find myself and overcome it. Once I left that environment I had to find a way to deal with it again, because it resurfaced. A technique called IMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) got me almost completely free of all the PTSD symptoms. Sort of a magic way to help the brain to remove all those traumatic events from the frontal cortex and put them to bed in your long term memory area where they stop resurfacing again.

 

[woodyarmadillo]

Not the same but kinda same I guess. My mother had a bipolar break when I was 10 and developed a very bad alcohol problem . Mental illness in all its forms is a rough cross to bear, particularly in that just as veterans are pretty much left to either fend for themselves or given minimal guidance from the institutions that supposedly are there for help, there is too little proactive action taken to help. The best things you can do is exactly what you have been doin, just be there and be a supportive ear to lend out. It’s up to him to make the next steps and hopefully as you say it’s a wake-up call. My mom had almost 6 years of periodic in-patient treatment and many medication changes for her bipolar and fortunately was able to quit drinking for the rest of her life. i‘ve worked in-patient myself for 39 years and and can say as long as he wants the help your BiL will succeed in turning things around, cause I’ve seen it happen in family and work.
p.s.: if you want, and feel like you need another friendly ear just DM me. I’m always willing help a friend out.

Thanks for sharing Steve. I had a couple of traumatic vehicle accidents that opened the door to some panic and anxiety. I’ve been getting help and sorting through that for several years. I’m doing well now, but along the way I’ve learned a lot about how our brains work and have developed a lot of compassion for people struggling with mental illness. In a different life, I’d probably pursue a similar career to yours.

 

[StatelineReefer]

Y'all went and got Moderated without me?!

 

[woodyarmadillo]

PTSD can be a life long struggle. I suffered from Complex PTSD from childhood. Being in the military actually helped me find myself and overcome it. Once I left that environment I had to find a way to deal with it again, because it resurfaced. A technique called IMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) got me almost completely free of all the PTSD symptoms. Sort of a magic way to help the brain to remove all those traumatic events from the frontal cortex and put them to bed in your long term memory area where they stop resurfacing again.

I’ve heard of that before and have heard good things about it. It’s very interesting. Glad you found help.

I do think the military can have wonderful impacts on a person in building confidence and as you said “finding themselves”.

 

[billyocean]

@billyocean aside from the KZ dosing products (1,2,3,4, vitalyzer, acro grow, etc.) you mentioned, do you feed anything else to your corals regularly like reef roids or anything?

No.

 

[billyocean]

Some spot fed roids every now and again won't hurt though

 

[AKL1950]

I’ve heard of that before and have heard good things about it. It’s very interesting. Glad you found help.

I do think the military can have wonderful impacts on a person in building confidence and as you said “finding themselves”.

Thanks. I think when it comes to the brain, there is actually no “Normal”. We are all different, we all have our own little quirks and some have big quirks. That’s what makes us all different. It would be a weird world if we all acted exactly the same. Not sure you could even call that human. Those with the bigger quirks just have a little harder time dealing with it and need help that helps them find themselves and survive in a world that’s pretty non forgiving.

 

[woodyarmadillo]

Thanks. I think when it comes to the brain, there is actually no “Normal”. We are all different, we all have our own little quirks and some have big quirks. That’s what makes us all different. It would be a weird world if we all acted exactly the same. Not sure you could even call that human. Those with the bigger quirks just have a little harder time dealing with it and need help that helps them find themselves and survive in a world that’s pretty non forgiving.

Well said and 100% agree. I think accepting this and learning how to work with what you have is the most important thing. I also find having a sense of humor about your quirks a very valuable tool.

 

[AKL1950]

Well said and 100% agree. I think accepting this and learning how to work with what you have is the most important thing. I also find having a sense of humor about your quirks a very valuable tool.

Lol! For sure. If you can laugh at yourself, others will laugh with you, not at you. Plus, helps elevate your serotonin. It’s important to always be proud of who you are (quirks and all), and work to be better.

 

[woodyarmadillo]

Lol! For sure. If you can laugh at yourself, others will laugh with you, not at you. Plus, helps elevate your serotonin. It’s important to always be proud of who you are (quirks and all), and work to be better.

That was an excellent and uplifting way to conclude talking about a depressing topic!