Sam's Oceanic 120 - DIY solutions

Projects with Sam · Jun 9, 2022

rmorris_14 said:
Anything end up happening with the cardinal holding eggs in his mouth? Still there? Swallow them? Curious mind wants to know

He is still holding! I am trying to beat the clock with a freebee tank I was given by the folks @ Petco before they tossed it in the dumpster. Right time right place.

I am using the extruded PVC ceiling tile for a temporary overflow box... May even paint it all black. 3D printed out a turbulent flow nozzle. I'll plumb it into my existing setup.

If I get this spawn, You're welcome to a few if you want to make the drive!

rmorris_14 · Jun 9, 2022

Projects with Sam said:
He is still holding! I am trying to beat the clock with a freebee tank I was given by the folks @ Petco before they tossed it in the dumpster. Right time right place.

I am using the extruded PVC ceiling tile for a temporary overflow box... May even paint it all black. 3D printed out a turbulent flow nozzle. I'll plumb it into my existing setup.

If I get this spawn, You're welcome to a few if you want to make the drive!

Are planning on leaving him in the main tank until he releases or going to transfer him before?

rmorris_14 · Jun 9, 2022

Also here is a thread of someone that was helping me on humble fish that went through the trials and raising of baby cardinals. Might have some good tips in there for you.

Banggai holding eggs!

Exciting times. My male Banggai is holding eggs! I saw them yesterday so it will probably be a while until they hatch. I got them in July as a mated pair who had held eggs but never babies (in the store) and now they are finally producing again. Probably not their fault as they are still in the...

humble.fish

Sean Clark · Jun 9, 2022

rmorris_14 said:
Also here is a thread of someone that was helping me on humble fish that went through the trials and raising of baby cardinals. Might have some good tips in there for you.

Banggai holding eggs!

Exciting times. My male Banggai is holding eggs! I saw them yesterday so it will probably be a while until they hatch. I got them in July as a mated pair who had held eggs but never babies (in the store) and now they are finally producing again. Probably not their fault as they are still in the...

humble.fish

Wow that is really neat. I did not read everything but skimming through and watching the progression was pretty satisfying.

rmorris_14 · Jun 9, 2022

Sean Clark said:
Wow that is really neat. I did not read everything but skimming through and watching the progression was pretty satisfying.

The fake urchin is one of my favorite parts about raising them

Projects with Sam · Jun 10, 2022

rmorris_14 said:
Are planning on leaving him in the main tank until he releases or going to transfer him before?

I used to strip my Cichlid so I didn't get a ton of babies so I may strip him. I guess were coming up on 2 weeks. Should I wait another 2? I wasn't really paying too much attention to the posts and they flipped back and forth. Did he hold the eggs for 2 weeks then the larvae for two then he got minnows that could eat bbs?

rmorris_14 · Jun 10, 2022

Projects with Sam said:
I used to strip my Cichlid so I didn't get a ton of babies so I may strip him. I guess were coming up on 2 weeks. Should I wait another 2? I wasn't really paying too much attention to the posts and they flipped back and forth. Did he hold the eggs for 2 weeks then the larvae for two then he got minnows that could eat bbs?

I went back through the posts. From what I could tell, he had the parents in a separate breeding tank. From the day he noticed the male no longer eating, he would wait 26 days to pull the male and "force" him to spit out babies. I don't know what "force to spit out" means. Maybe just pulling the male out and putting him in a jar causes them to release them??? You may know more about that with your cichlid experience. He then fed apex pods and baby brine until they were old enough to consume larger pods. Then eventually started dusting with LRS and TDO pellets. Your pair is in your displays, so "pulling the male" could be way more tricky. His male ate the eggs the first few times around.
Also, his is male would go 7 to 9 days of eating and then they would breed, and the cycle would continue.

Projects with Sam · Jun 10, 2022

Wow thanks for confirmation about 4 weeks for strip @rmorris_14! So with the cichlid, I would take a ~1" tube and just work it in between the fish's-lips (dont fish-lip the hookah-brah) so the bottom lip was forced open. The fish's breathing would push the eggs out and down the tube.
I'll use red light and net them in the dark. I can also pull out rock structures till I get him. I may release him back into the DT if its easy enough to catch with the red-light method. I may also let this first round remain in the tank.

I was planning something different for the tank I was working on ~ I'll put the cardinals in 10 gallon tanks.
I was going to paint it black so I'll have a white tank for the 'good' fish and the black tank will be for the 'bad' (agro) fish.
A little heaven and hell in my own basement.

Projects with Sam · Jun 11, 2022

MIA:
Wheeler's Watchman Goby
Peppermint Shrimp
Found decomposing something or other in my main drain. I am not sure which one is toast or if both are toast.

rmorris_14 · Jun 11, 2022

Projects with Sam said:
MIA:
Wheeler's Watchman Goby
Peppermint Shrimp
Found decomposing something or other in my main drain. I am not sure which one is toast or if both are toast.

I need you to look at your arrow crab and tell me if he has that guilty look on his face.

Projects with Sam · Jun 11, 2022

So Tuesday I pulled a snail out of the tank dead and stinking and again today ~ like they've probably been in there dead for awhile - I bet all the 1st gen turbos I got that got huge are all passing of old age - I was worried it was my temp change but I found one dead before I lowered my temp (hmm that info was posted here).
Guess I should check my amonian.

Projects with Sam · Jun 14, 2022

I got 12!
All healthy and swimming. He was easy enough to catch that I put him back in the DT after I stripped him

Got two for them to choose from. They glow if I had UV...

But I only started the brine yesterday... so, I put a copepod hotel from my fuge in so they'll hopefully have some snacks.

Sean Clark · Jun 14, 2022

This is fantastic.

rmorris_14 · Jun 14, 2022

AHHHHHHHHHH NO FREAKING WAY!!!!!! This is so cool!!! I was just wondering yesterday how it was going! How cute are they!?!?!?

rmorris_14 · Jun 14, 2022

How can you tell when they are ready to be stripped?

Projects with Sam · Jun 14, 2022

rmorris_14 said:
How can you tell when they are ready to be stripped?

I kept trying to peer into his mouth whenever he would come to the glass. I saw a little fry-head then I knew it was time to mobilize.
I may not have gotten them all though I did do three rounds with the tube. (King of DIY method) I even got all the stuff from the place he recommended back in my African Cichlid days.
They are so cute.

edit: I got them all, I saw him eating.

rmorris_14 · Jun 14, 2022

Projects with Sam said:
I kept trying to peer into his mouth whenever he would come to the glass. I saw a little fry-head then I knew it was time to mobilize.
I may not have gotten them all though I did do three rounds with the tube. (King of DIY method) I even got all the stuff from the place he recommended back in my African Cichlid days.
They are so cute.

edit: I got them all, I saw him eating.

Youre a rock star in my book! Good work