Parameter moniter business idea

[vahegan]

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acsestwater.1c00351

How very interesting. I wish the full article was available, so that we could get acquainted with the methodology. I am assuming that they have found a way to do without a spectroscope: they are probably able to determine the nitrate content based on just two wavelengths (235 and 275nm), and are using a dye (Orange G) as a color filter. Very interesting approach, but there are many questions. In particular, Orange G is used as a pH indicator which changes color at pH 9. Their results must have been unstable depending on pH value (unless they are also adding a pH buffer to stabilize it). It would be also very interesting to look at the math they are using to extract the nitrate and nitrite values based on just two datapoints. Potentially, this is a very DIY-able project, can be something like a Hanna checker: take the sample, calibrate the device, add dye and buffer, read the result.

 

[Malcontent]

How very interesting. I wish the full article was available, so that we could get acquainted with the methodology. I am assuming that they have found a way to do without a spectroscope: they are probably able to determine the nitrate content based on just two wavelengths (235 and 275nm), and are using a dye (Orange G) as a color filter. Very interesting approach, but there are many questions. In particular, Orange G is used as a pH indicator which changes color at pH 9. Their results must have been unstable depending on pH value (unless they are also adding a pH buffer to stabilize it). It would be also very interesting to look at the math they are using to extract the nitrate and nitrite values based on just two datapoints. Potentially, this is a very DIY-able project, can be something like a Hanna checker: take the sample, calibrate the device, add dye and buffer, read the result.

Yes, it was the new UV-C LEDs that enabled the development of a new generation of nitrate probes which have been on the market since 2022. Previously, they used deuterium bulbs to generate the UV light. The probes don't require any reagents.

Nitrate absorbs at 235 nm while DOC absorbs at 235 nm and 275 nm so they measure both and subtract the DOC value to get nitrate concentration.

Deep SUNA Ocean Nitrate Sensor | Sea-Bird Scientific - Overview | Sea-Bird

Deep SUNA Ocean Nitrate Sensor

www.seabird.com

 

[Jamie814]

There was also a company before Mindstream

Yes, Thrive Aquatics, they took 10's of thousands from LFS's with a promise of an advanced testing machine, promoted themselves with huge expensive parties at trade shows then went bankrupt and no machine was ever released. lol

 

[Solo McReefer]

You are thinking of Mindstream. It basically went from a product that they showed off at one of the big reefing events

That was it

Iirc, they were available for a month. Then folded their tents

 

[codycolina707]

A salinity sensor and tds sensor actually work the same way, meaning that you just have to enter a formula to change tds to salinity.

Not tryna be negative but they do have Salinity ph and temp sensors for about 100 bucks on Amazon I think the main thing people like about stuff like apex is it being able to turn off let's say ato if ph goes too high from kalk or whatever or heater shutting off from it getting too hot

 

[jayden kolonne]

So you think control is important. I can set up something but dealing with 120 from a 5v controller is going to be hard unless you can find a wall outlet that also has a relay on it.

 

[jayden kolonne]

I am building the prototype now, however I also ordered a spectrometer from Amazon, I'll test it and tell you if it works well, it may be able to record NO2 NO3 and ammonia. It may also be able be able to read certain minerals.

 

[jayden kolonne]

Ok I was busy last week but I'm working on it right now. I'll program it and compare to hannas results in an hour or so.

 

[Jonify]

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[Kerbash]

Ok I was busy last week but I'm working on it right now. I'll program it and compare to hannas results in an hour or so.

Any update?

 

[jayden kolonne]

Any update?

No, my mom dragged me shopping right after I started. I am finishing my college apps soon which will clear up time. I am also finding library's in the mean time for some of the sensors.

 

[Kerbash]

No, my mom dragged me shopping right after I started. I am finishing my college apps soon which will clear up time. I am also finding library's in the mean time for some of the sensor

Sorry if you already mention this but are you trying to detect all the major ions using just photo-spectrometry? No reagents at all?

 

[jayden kolonne]

Sorry if you already mention this but are you trying to detect all the major ions using just photo-spectrometry? No reagents at all?

Yes, that is a component I am going to test. Concedirning nitrate and nitrite have a 16.999 differnce and ammonia is an additional (roughly) 18 differnce, they should be very easy to tell the differnce in. I did that off the top of my head so please excuse if those numbers are wrong.

 

[GARRIGA]

Follow your heart but make it make cents. As pointed out by others. Many hidden and unknown costs add up quickly and if priced too low might be hard to justify later the new reasonable price that keeps one able to stay in business while still able to cover their own living expenses. Philanthropy for the ultra wealthy.

 

[jayden kolonne]

Follow your heart but make it make cents. As pointed out by others. Many hidden and unknown costs add up quickly and if priced too low might be hard to justify later the new reasonable price that keeps one able to stay in business while still able to cover their own living expenses. Philanthropy for the ultra wealthy.

Yet I do have to price them at a competitive price since I'm not well known. I'm working on the ph sensor tommorow. I am also watching alot of YouTube learning how to make an app. It doesn't seem to hard @chatgpt is going to help me alot though.

 

[Kerbash]

Yes, that is a component I am going to test. Concedirning nitrate and nitrite have a 16.999 differnce and ammonia is an additional (roughly) 18 differnce, they should be very easy to tell the differnce in. I did that off the top of my head so please excuse if those numbers are wrong.

Huh wow thats pretty cool, how are you doing it? I have never heard of purely spectrometric analysis without reagent working for these ions b4. Are you using absorption? or florescence?

 

[jayden kolonne]

So I woke up today at about 4:30 to build the ph sensor. I made the code, but it needs calibration. I have a hanna ph tester and I was wondering if dipping that in white vinegar would damage it. I also would like to dip it in a solution that has about 10 ph. I will dilute both down till they slowly reach 7. Plotting all the points of what hanna reads vrs what the probe is reading with a change of 0.25. I will then input that graph into the code to adjust for those changes.

 

[jayden kolonne]

So I woke up today at about 4:30 to build the ph sensor. I made the code, but it needs calibration. I have a hanna ph tester and I was wondering if dipping that in white vinegar would damage it. I also would like to dip it in a solution that has about 10 ph. I will dilute both down till they slowly reach 7. Plotting all the points of what hanna reads vrs what the probe is reading.with a change of 0.25. I will then input that graph into the code to adjust for those changes.