New torch, will it heal?

[Reef Devils]

Fully open means little sadly. It’s like a cat or dog hiding a symptom - you would never know something is going wrong until it’s more serious.

Look at this torch. I took pics right now. Fully open. Appears healthy and fine

However. Look at the base

This is a rescue from another tank. The base was hidden by other corals. I don’t normally view that tank at night. I’m not sure when this started or why, only thing I can think of is that nitrates were 26 in that tank and I don’t spot feed corals. This guy still grew from a tiny head into a noticeably larger torch but started declining without my awareness

I’ve moved it into my main system with numerous healthy torches and better conditions and am attempting to save it.

Wow that’s crazy. Looks great from one angle and then you look at the base and it looks like it might fall out of the skeleton.

What are you going to do to help this recover?
Restor?

 

[VintageReefer]

Wow that’s crazy. Looks great from one angle and then you look at the base and it looks like it might fall out of the skeleton.

What are you going to do to help this recover?
Restor?

Gentle flow + target feeding flake + restor 3-4x a week

And

Reef energy AB+ Dumped in the tank on the days I’m not feeding the flake

 

[VintageReefer]

Feeding time!

Hopefully in a few weeks this makes a massive turnaround. It’s a good sign the torch looks so healthy and happy, it’s still good enough to hide the issue and is willing to open and feed.

Torches that don’t open, or clearly look sick/infected…much more difficult to heal because you can’t get them to ingest nutrients. Have to rely on dips and antibiotics which could be helpful but also can stress them even more

 

[Reef Devils]

Feeding time!

Hopefully in a few weeks this makes a massive turnaround. It’s a good sign the torch looks so healthy and happy, it’s still good enough to hide the issue and is willing to open and feed.

Torches that don’t open, or clearly look sick/infected…much more difficult to heal because you can’t get them to ingest nutrients. Have to rely on dips and antibiotics which could be helpful but also can stress them even more

Is that the flakes soaked in restor?

And you feed 3-4 times a week for how many weeks?

 

[VintageReefer]

Is that the flakes soaked in restor?

And you feed 3-4 times a week for how many weeks?

It’s a mix of these two flakes and restore. No water was added when soaking

Continue until the torch is better it takes a few weeks for improvement to be noticeable and even after it’s better, you can continue doing this to keep it healthy

 

[Reef Devils]

It’s a mix of these two flakes and restore. No water was added when soaking

Continue until the torch is better it takes a few weeks for improvement to be noticeable and even after it’s better, you can continue doing this to keep it healthy

oh ok so you can continue to feed coral the flakes with restor even if they get better.

 

[Outlaw Corals]

Nitrate - 9.6
Phosphate - 0.03
I can send u a video of flow tomorrow.
I haven’t seen Andy crab/shrimp/fish mess with it.

It will be fine as it grows it will calcify, but just do what the other guys mentioned, feed and low flow, you also want to put it in spot with low light, however I have a big problem with whoever sold that to you, it should never have been sold in that condition especially with no flesh, I only buy from very few people, and none of them would have let that leave their store like that, you really have to know who you’re buying from and if they treat their Corals and sit on them for a while before they even sell them to make sure they are selling healthy Corals because each Coral that leaves their store has their name on it, it’s a really cool torch though I hope you can get it healthy.

 

[VintageReefer]

It will be fine as it grows it will calcify, but just do what the other guys mentioned, feed and low flow, you also want to put it in spot with low light, however I have a big problem with whoever sold that to you, it should never have been sold in that condition especially with no flesh, I only buy from very few people, and none of them would have let that leave their store like that, you really have to know who you’re buying from and if they treat their Corals and sit on them for a while before they even sell them to make sure they are selling healthy Corals because each Coral that leaves their store has their name on it, it’s a really cool torch though I hope you can get it healthy.

I agree, the torch should not have been sold like that. It does have a hole like spot where it meets the skeleton but if you look around the area where the flesh band should be, you can see it’s eroding all around the trunk. It’s just one spot is worse than the rest. They either sold a torch that arrived unhealthy, or they have parameter/condition issues on their holding tank. This doesn’t happen overnight

 

[MattPLaw]

It will be fine as it grows it will calcify, but just do what the other guys mentioned, feed and low flow, you also want to put it in spot with low light, however I have a big problem with whoever sold that to you, it should never have been sold in that condition especially with no flesh, I only buy from very few people, and none of them would have let that leave their store like that, you really have to know who you’re buying from and if they treat their Corals and sit on them for a while before they even sell them to make sure they are selling healthy Corals because each Coral that leaves their store has their name on it, it’s a really cool torch though I hope you can get it healthy.

Thanks! I think I can get it healthy. I'm a little peeved as well, I did not expect them to sell one in this condition.

 

[Reef Devils]

Thanks! I think I can get it healthy. I'm a little peeved as well, I did not expect them to sell one in this condition.

Where did you buy it from?

 

[MattPLaw]

Where did you buy it from?

I got it from a local frag swap, from what I thought was a reputable dealer. Still trying to get in touch with them.

 

[Naso180!]

I have a nearly identical torch that was retracting and starting to receed. This was a few weeks after I had got it. I decided to treat it for what looked like a possible infection. Dipped it 2x over the corse of a week. Used Coral Rx and peroxide. It was one capful(approximately 5ml) of Rx and 5ml of peroxide in 1g of new SW. Bothe times it was dipped for 10 minutes. Started seeing marked improvements after 4 to 5 days. 4 weeks later this is it closed up.

 

[MattPLaw]

I have a nearly identical torch that was retracting and starting to receed. This was a few weeks after I had got it. I decided to treat it for what looked like a possible infection. Dipped it 2x over the corse of a week. Used Coral Rx and peroxide. It was one capful(approximately 5ml) of Rx and 5ml of peroxide in 1g of new SW. Bothe times it was dipped for 10 minutes. Started seeing marked improvements after 4 to 5 days. 4 weeks later this is it closed up.

Beautiful! Thank you. It's been looking real good. I dipped it with coral rx when I first got it a couple days ago.
By chance do you know the name of that variation?

 

[Gumbies R Us]

I'm following this thread for advice as well.

 

[Reef Devils]

I have a nearly identical torch that was retracting and starting to receed. This was a few weeks after I had got it. I decided to treat it for what looked like a possible infection. Dipped it 2x over the corse of a week. Used Coral Rx and peroxide. It was one capful(approximately 5ml) of Rx and 5ml of peroxide in 1g of new SW. Bothe times it was dipped for 10 minutes. Started seeing marked improvements after 4 to 5 days. 4 weeks later this is it closed up.

Did you mix the RX and peroxide together?

How is the torch now?

 

[MattPLaw]

Did you mix the RX and peroxide together?

How is the torch now?

No I am not familiar with that. Is there an exact recipe you suggest? What does the peroxide do?
It's looking fine. We will see.

 

[Naso180!]

The Rx and peroxide are mixed together in the 1g of water. Both are used to treat a possible infection. I use this mixed with lugols to dip all new corals. Torches often have bacterial infections when newly imported. My LFS has been using this dip recipe for several years now. Haven't lost any since I began this regimen.

 

[Reef Devils]

The Rx and peroxide are mixed together in the 1g of water. Both are used to treat a possible infection. I use this mixed with lugols to dip all new corals. Torches often have bacterial infections when newly imported. My LFS has been using this dip recipe for several years now. Haven't lost any since I began this regimen.

How much of each to you put in the one gallon? And dip for how long? And how many times?

 

[Naso180!]

I posted it in part, in my first response. It's 1g of fresh SW 5ml peroxide, 5ml Coral Rx and enough lugols to make the the water look like very week tea. Approx 10 drops. The coral is dipped for 10 minutes. This is repeated after a few days if the coral doesn't begin showing signs of recovery.

 

[Doctorgori]

Just one opinion but IME it’s a crap shoot with torches. I’ve yet to figure any pattern or cause which contributes to thier mortality the first month after purchase.
Following this thread, and I’ve kept torches for 20+ yrs easily…
I got no good advice….again following and good luck OP