New to skimmers could use some help.

[cdemoss01]

No, they’re not bad. I’ve been running four of their powerheads with controller box for about 18 months without any problems. They even sync wirelessly for under $40 a piece.

Oh wow that's surprising its really cheap!

 

[cdemoss01]

@ClownSchool
Which one should I go with? Jebao or Chichiros?

 

[I Like Shrimp]

@ClownSchool
Which one should I go with? Jebao or Chichiros?

I like shrimp, i am making a army of cherry shrimp and i am going to take over the east coast starting a civil war

 

[ClownSchool]

@ClownSchool
Which one should I go with? Jebao or Chichiros?

I’d probably go with Jabao because it’s actually spec’d for saltwater systems.

 

[cdemoss01]

I’d probably go with Jabao because it’s actually spec’d for saltwater systems.

Got it. That a resevior and anything else? You think it can do water changes?

 

[BeanAnimal]

I like shrimp, i am making a army of cherry shrimp and i am going to take over the east coast starting a civil war

what does that even mean?

 

[ClownSchool]

Got it. That a resevior and anything else? You think it can do water changes?

I’d direct that question to SliceGolfer on page 6 of this thread. He/She owns the unit.
But, based on the pump labels, if it can handle Kalkwasser, saltwater shouldn’t be a problem. You’d just need to push some freshwater with vinegar through it from time to time to keep it clean.

 

[cdemoss01]

I’d direct that question to SliceGolfer on page 6 of this thread. He/She owns the unit.
But, based on the pump labels, if it can handle Kalkwasser, saltwater shouldn’t be a problem. You’d just need to push some freshwater with vinegar through it from time to time to keep it clean.

Got it. Looks like I'm gonna buy jebao, but I need a resevior the apex ones are perfect but they are 200 dollars for one... All I wanna put in them is saltwater probably. How would I dose everything? All chemicals go into a container down below?

 

[cdemoss01]

what does that even mean?

He wants to build a shrimp army and invade the East coast!

 

[ClownSchool]

Got it. Looks like I'm gonna buy jebao, but I need a resevior the apex ones are perfect but they are 200 dollars for one... All I wanna put in them is saltwater probably. How would I dose everything? All chemicals go into a container down below?

How many gallons is your system?

 

[cdemoss01]

How many gallons is your system?

65 gallons. I plan on doing this clean after my home football game on Saturday. Sorry about the late response.

 

[ClownSchool]

65 gallons. I plan on doing this clean after my home football game on Saturday. Sorry about the late response.

You can do it many ways, but here are some of the most common:

- you can get a can of kalkwasser powder, add 1 to 2 table spoons to a gallon of RO/DI water, mix it VERY well, and dose on drip through the night while testing Alkalinity and calcium at the same time each day until you get within acceptable range.
The feed line will clog if you don’t ensure the feed isn’t too close to the bottom of the jug and you’ll need to push vinegar and water through the line every few weeks to clean.

-You can buy two-part dosing, alkalinity and calcium.
A gallon of each, depending on brand, can cost anywhere from $85 to $140.
You would use one pump for each, running calcium through the day and Alkalinity through the night. Testing alkalinity and calcium at the same time daily until you’re within a stable range.
The feed lines stay clean, but it’s more expensive.

-You can use All4Reef through one feed line. It replenishes more trace elements than the other methods, but has the same drawbacks a Kalkwasser with the added complication of maintaining a much lower alkalinity that you’ll need to address.

There are three- and four-part dosing methods but they’re even more expensive and I’m not familiar with them.

The biggest advantage for stability will be using two of the dosing pumps for water changes.
Once you add sand and aquascape, your water volume of a 65 gallon system will be around 55, so you can do a five gallon water change a week.
You can schedule one pump add a gallon from a bucket of mixed saltwater and schedule the the second pump to pull the same amount from the tank into either a waist bucket or drain.
That way you do it slowly throughout the day, it keeps your water pristine, and doesn’t shock your system with temperature changes by doing it all at once.
You could increase your water change to 20% or more per week and do away with dosing. Though it’d be more money in salt, it would still be the cheapest method short of Kalkwasser…and cleaner than Kalkwasser.
But, don’t forget that you’ll still need a traditional water change to clean the sand bed and blow off the rock work with either a powerhead or turkey basted every month, or so.

 

[cdemoss01]

You can do it many ways, but here are some of the most common:

- you can get a can of kalkwasser powder, add 1 to 2 table spoons to a gallon of RO/DI water, mix it VERY well, and dose on drip through the night while testing Alkalinity and calcium at the same time each day until you get within acceptable range.
The feed line will clog if you don’t ensure the feed isn’t too close to the bottom of the jug and you’ll need to push vinegar and water through the line every few weeks to clean.

-You can buy two-part dosing, alkalinity and calcium.
A gallon of each, depending on brand, can cost anywhere from $85 to $140.
You would use one pump for each, running calcium through the day and Alkalinity through the night. Testing alkalinity and calcium at the same time daily until you’re within a stable range.
The feed lines stay clean, but it’s more expensive.

-You can use All4Reef through one feed line. It replenishes more trace elements than the other methods, but has the same drawbacks a Kalkwasser with the added complication of maintaining a much lower alkalinity that you’ll need to address.

There are three- and four-part dosing methods but they’re even more expensive and I’m not familiar with them.

The biggest advantage for stability will be using two of the dosing pumps for water changes.
Once you add sand and aquascape, your water volume of a 65 gallon system will be around 55, so you can do a five gallon water change a week.
You can schedule one pump add a gallon from a bucket of mixed saltwater and schedule the the second pump to pull the same amount from the tank into either a waist bucket or drain.
That way you do it slowly throughout the day, it keeps your water pristine, and doesn’t shock your system with temperature changes by doing it all at once.
You could increase your water change to 20% or more per week and do away with dosing. Though it’d be more money in salt, it would still be the cheapest method short of Kalkwasser…and cleaner than Kalkwasser.
But, don’t forget that you’ll still need a traditional water change to clean the sand bed and blow off the rock work with either a powerhead or turkey basted every month, or so.

Got it. Will chemicals help nitrates too? Got my mind set on jebao it can do WCs 2 gallons daily correct?

 

[ClownSchool]

Got it. Will chemicals help nitrates too? Got my mind set on jebao it can do WCs 2 gallons daily correct?

Only water changes, nitrate neutralizing additives, or protein skimmers reduce nitrates.
You only need 10% to 15% water change a week, so two gallons a day is quite a lot. One gallon a day is more than enough.

 

[cdemoss01]

Only water changes, nitrate neutralizing additives, or protein skimmers reduce nitrates.
You only need 10% to 15% water change a week, so two gallons a day is quite a lot. One gallon a day is more than enough.

Got it, so a gallon a day consistently, nitrate neutralizing additives like what? Kalkwasser or Reef Life?

 

[FUNGI]

I never heard of putting things inside a skimmer, I have my skimmer hooked up by venturi pump to a CO2 scrubber for PH Increase, try more water changes and feeding less, read labels and research to see if anything you put in tank will increase nitrates, and test nitrates everyday with Hanna and Salifert test kits,

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CPR tried this with their skimmers and bio-bail / spaghetti, or whatever they called it......

 

[cdemoss01]

CPR tried this with their skimmers and bio-bail / spaghetti, or whatever they called it......

This guy changed his profile picture to the squid game lady

 

[FUNGI]

Its Coming Dec. 26th!

 

[ClownSchool]

Got it, so a gallon a day consistently, nitrate neutralizing additives like what? Kalkwasser or Reef Life?

No.
You can schedule .71 gallons per day, throughout the day, and it’ll be 5 gallons per week. That’ll allow you to use five gallon buckets and only require you to dump and reset once a week.
Red Sea makes an additive that lowers nitrates. It is nothing like Kalkwasser or All4Reef.

 

[cdemoss01]

No.
You can schedule .71 gallons per day, throughout the day, and it’ll be 5 gallons per week. That’ll allow you to use five gallon buckets and only require you to dump and reset once a week.
Red Sea makes an additive that lowers nitrates. It is nothing like Kalkwasser or All4Reef.

Got it.