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I didn’t know that. The upside down-ness makes sense now.
They still sting like a B.
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yeah that looks nasty. how long do you typically feel the stings after the fact?
About 10 seconds is all it took for me to reach the bottle of ammonia that I dose the tank with lol. After that, no sting. Then rinsed with vinegar I dose with to wash that off lol. In the end, I now have a scab there which doesn’t hurt and made a little crude sw by missing those 2 lol.
 
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have a great night all... :)
lil fish stuff tonight,busy day tomorrow...:)poppin
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not there anymore...;)



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these don't look like this no more...:D
annnd a Boogie...:)
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pop... :) "sump snake"
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the ball won this round...:)
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good night all ,good morning Simon...:)
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;Wideyedsomething is going to change in here today...;):)
 
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good morning all... :)
nothing like a puppy licking your face alarm clock...;Facepalm
 

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Thanks for this information, @1ocean ! I am looking for ways to increase oxygenation, especially since I am concerned with available oxygen in my basement.


Ha, February birthday here, so it is one of my favorite months! I also still love snow and cold, though owning a home has broadened my understanding of those who don't. I'll also likely understand more as I get older.
Anytime Soren,
I am building and sharing all I learn from everyone with everyone, the good and the bad.
My positive achievements and my failures ,,,,all for the good...
ah it is coffee here now...
Off the next 3 days....
 

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This is what I’ve been leaning toward. Especially since it hasn’t progressed since I used the feeding and added the nori!

I typically rinse mine, as well. However, I think I’ll try rinsing it a bit more and doing it a bit gentler. There always seems to be an endless amount of dust voming off of them, so perhaps I’m being a bit too aggressive with it.
i agree with everyone' s reply too, but since I have 8 tangs and I worry about tangs/carbon issue, I run chemipure blue only once in a while, just to make water super clear. Then other months I don't run it in a reactor.
 

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Anybody have any suggestions on thickness for acrylic homemade tanks?
I'm thinking of making some compartmented QT tanks kind of like shop tanks so I can keep fish separated for specialized feeding and observation during QT while also being able to medicate these tanks if necessary in smaller units.
What I am thinking is a tank 36" long side-to-side by 16" wide front-to-back by 9" tall top-to-bottom.
Back section would be portioned off about 3.5"X36" like an AIO for filtration and equipment.
Each compartment would have an overflow weir into the AIO chamber and a return nozzle from a pump in the AIO chamber.
I am planning for one tank to have the front divided into 5 compartments each about 7"X12"X9" while the other would be divided into 3 compartments each about 12"X12"X9".
The options I have for easier-to-obtain acrylic sheets are either 0.11" or 0.22" thick.
One sheet 48"X96" would be enough for both of these tanks according to my layout (or 2 sheets 48"X48" since they are a fair bit cheaper together than one 48"X96" sheet for some reason).

I'm pretty sure I need the 0.22" sheet, assuming that is thick enough for all panels of a design like this. It gets complicated to avoid extra/wasted acrylic if I try to divide parts between thicknesses where the thicker sheet may not be necessary.

Any advice is appreciated!

Picture of model of tanks with gussets and thin Euro-brace for structure:
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Parts laid out on two 48"X48" sheets:
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I have been making my own sumps and stuff out of extruded acrylic and 1/4 inch is much easier to work with to get a good bond using weldon 4. Anything thinner is too flexible and could bow and cause the seams to break...
 

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I have been making my own sumps and stuff out of extruded acrylic and 1/4 inch is much easier to work with to get a good bond using weldon 4. Anything thinner is too flexible and could bow and cause the seams to break...
Thanks, @1ocean !
A few questions (for you and for anyone else to advise me on):
What limitations have you found with surface area between braces using 1/4" acrylic? Would this be thick enough if my panels are only 9"x12" at the largest between braces or joints with a perpendicular panel? (I'm pretty sure @Eagle_Steve recommended thicker than 1/4" if a panel dimension is greater than 12", so I already have this in consideration).
Does acrylic bond no matter where it is joined together? ...for example, either butting end of panel to end of panel, end of panel to side of panel, or side of panel to side of panel overlap?
Can joints be reinforced after joining by "welding-on" an additional strip (maybe 1/4"x1/4" or 1/4"X1/2") of acrylic in the corner along the joint seam? (This seems likely the case, since Weld-On is a solvent that actually merges the sheets through material bonding if I understand correctly.)

I'm probably going the glass route or just using my 10-gallon tanks instead of the custom acrylic route, but I would still consider possibly making these acrylic tanks if 1/4" is reasonable for my application. I'm not sure I am ready to trust the lives of my fish to inexperienced acrylic work, though, so I may just leave this question for some day down the road when I have a need/have the time to get into acrylic fabrication.
 

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Thanks, @1ocean !
A few questions (for you and for anyone else to advise me on):
What limitations have you found with surface area between braces using 1/4" acrylic? Would this be thick enough if my panels are only 9"x12" at the largest between braces or joints with a perpendicular panel? (I'm pretty sure @Eagle_Steve recommended thicker than 1/4" if a panel dimension is greater than 12", so I already have this in consideration).
Does acrylic bond no matter where it is joined together? ...for example, either butting end of panel to end of panel, end of panel to side of panel, or side of panel to side of panel overlap?
Can joints be reinforced after joining by "welding-on" an additional strip (maybe 1/4"x1/4" or 1/4"X1/2") of acrylic in the corner along the joint seam? (This seems likely the case, since Weld-On is a solvent that actually merges the sheets through material bonding if I understand correctly.)

I'm probably going the glass route or just using my 10-gallon tanks instead of the custom acrylic route, but I would still consider possibly making these acrylic tanks if 1/4" is reasonable for my application. I'm not sure I am ready to trust the lives of my fish to inexperienced acrylic work, though, so I may just leave this question for some day down the road when I have a need/have the time to get into acrylic fabrication.
Weld on basically melts the acrylic together to keep it simple. If you did dividers and kept the size to 9x12, I see no issues. You could go larger, but if moved, the possibility of twisting is what concerns me. I also overbuild things, so that doesnt help lol. Ask @Joe Glass Cages about my sump lol. Way over built, but will last forever. Just the way I like it lol.

With that said, 1/4" for your design should be fine if handled with care.
 
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Thanks, @1ocean !
A few questions (for you and for anyone else to advise me on):
What limitations have you found with surface area between braces using 1/4" acrylic? Would this be thick enough if my panels are only 9"x12" at the largest between braces or joints with a perpendicular panel? (I'm pretty sure @Eagle_Steve recommended thicker than 1/4" if a panel dimension is greater than 12", so I already have this in consideration).
Does acrylic bond no matter where it is joined together? ...for example, either butting end of panel to end of panel, end of panel to side of panel, or side of panel to side of panel overlap?
Can joints be reinforced after joining by "welding-on" an additional strip (maybe 1/4"x1/4" or 1/4"X1/2") of acrylic in the corner along the joint seam? (This seems likely the case, since Weld-On is a solvent that actually merges the sheets through material bonding if I understand correctly.)

I'm probably going the glass route or just using my 10-gallon tanks instead of the custom acrylic route, but I would still consider possibly making these acrylic tanks if 1/4" is reasonable for my application. I'm not sure I am ready to trust the lives of my fish to inexperienced acrylic work, though, so I may just leave this question for some day down the road when I have a need/have the time to get into acrylic fabrication.
I can add ,yes additional strips ,have done many times in building/repairing acrylic,works great ,
but weld on 16 is my choice,is thicker,just creates a triple weld on corners.

Hang tight in a week or so,can take a lot of pics ,as i move "frankentank" ,lots of repair done there ,
after " crash" lol...:rolleyes:
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ahh, coffee time and then, if ups is on time I should have my 2 1/2 pound bucket of two little fishes Phosban. Yesterday I got 4 pounds of sulfur and 10 pounds of aragonite for the sulfur reactor. Then I am going to install and turn on the sulfur reactor i made, the aquamax sigma 2 with Phosban in it, a second aquamax sigma 2 with chemipure blue in it, my uv strilizer and my air tower since the 300 is now over 30 days running with some fish in it and no lights.
Been dosing Brightwell microbactor clean and Bio fuel for the last 3 weeks.
And if I get that all done, then tomorrow it is install all the GHL stuff.
Also want to move the rest of the fish (15 total, 8 which are clowns) from the 140 into the 300.
 

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Weld on basically melts the acrylic together to keep it simple. If you did dividers and kept the size to 9x12, I see no issues. You could go larger, but if moved, the possibility of twisting is what concerns me. I also overbuild things, so that doesnt help lol. Ask @Joe Glass Cages about my sump lol. Way over built, but will last forever. Just the way I like it lol.

With that said, 1/4" for your design should be fine if handled with care.
Thanks again, @Eagle_Steve !
I also like to overbuild things, so I am really questioning whether I want to try this or not...
It would probably just be simpler for me to say that 1/4" is too thin and to just skip this custom build since I don't have a lot of extra funding right now and am still too busy with other focuses to find enough time for such an ambitious build with no prior experience! ;)

I can add ,yes additional strips ,have done many times in building/repairing acrylic,works great ,
but weld on 16 is my choice,is thicker,just creates a triple weld on corners.

Hang tight in a week or so,can take a lot of pics ,as i move "frankentank" ,lots of repair done there ,
after " crash" lol...:rolleyes:
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Thanks, Frank! I appreciate all your help and experiences shared!
 
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