was in a mobile home supply place yesterday...they had a whole bin full of gfi cords where the plug head was oversized and had the reset buttons, then there was about half a foot of cord with a regular extension cord end...29 bucks...15 amp...looked pretty simple and compact for someone without the skills to wire a real gfi outlet...this is the first place i've ever seen anything like this sitting on the shelf...idk if this was just a coincidence that this place had them or if these are a common mobile home part
How to wire a GFCI outlet
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SteveMM62Reef
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They have a GFCI that has an audible alarm on it, to indicate it’s tripped. Sigh, and last Winter I just finished upgrading all my 20Amp Receptacle, then I found out about these Levitron’s available on Amazon. BTW I’ve had problems with a well known Brand of Receptacle Catching fire, that have the USB outlet. So after quite a bit of research, I’ll only use the Levitron Brand, for anything.
imchuco
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Nice thread about to do this right nowDisclaimer.
I am a licensed electrician, my way of doing electrical work is just my interpretation of the National Electrical Code and what I feel is good workmanship. Every electrician has their own interpretation of the code and in some cases do electrical work in other ways than I do. I am not saying my way is the only way, but it is how I have done it for eleven years now.
The most important thing to remember when doing electrical work is to make very good connections. Loose wires cause fires. This is no joke just a plain fact, that should be written in the Bible. :angel:The second most important thing to do is make sure all power is turned off before working on anything. Getting shocked sucks, believe me.
OK now that I am done with my rant I will do a step by step explanation on how to wire a GFCI with outlets protected by it down stream. : FIRST THINGS FIRST, disconnect all power.
The visual difference between a GFCI and a standard outlet, the GFCI is on the left.
Now you can wire one GFCI up so it protects all other outlets downstream of it. Or you can just buy a GFCI for every outlet you want protected. It is cheaper to buy one GFCI and then protect each outlet downstream but it is a little more complicated to do it that way. I am not a prices guy but I think the GFCI's are about $10 ea compared to a buck or two for normal outlets. I am going to show you how to do it with one GFCI protecting other outlets in this thread.
GFCI's have two spots to put sets of wires in them, they are labeled LINE and LOAD. In this pic you will see LINE on the right side and LOAD on the left side.
GFCI's need the power coming in to them to be on the LINE side of the outlet and whatever it is to protect downstream of the GFCI hooks to the LOAD side. Just remember the LOAD is what the GFCI is driving. Sorry my pic on the right the wording is cut off. It says power from panel.
Now I have ran the wire in between the two boxes and in this picture you can see the wire coming into the box. But more importantly you can see the yellow outer shield "sheathing" of the wire. This pic is to demonstrate the proper amount of sheathing to be in the box. On the left you can see I have about 3/8" of sheathing in the box and on the right you can see I have about 1 1/4" of sheathing in there. This is a minimum and maximum amount. Also for stapling you don't want to staple too hard, just enough to hold the wire in place without cutting into the sheathing.
Now you will have black, white, and a bare or green ground wire. Now assuming your house is wired correctly, the black wire is almost always your power or positive wire. The white wire is almost always your neutral or negative wire, and the bare or green is your ground. On most GFCI brands you can usually put 2 power and 2 neutral LINE wires to the outlet. There should also be spots to put 2 power and 2 neutral LOAD wires to the outlet. But there is only one spot to attach the ground wire to the GFCI so you will need to wire nut them all together with a single "pigtail" to attach to the GFCI. I take and push all the ground wires down into the bottom corner of the box so they are all grouped together.
Then trim them all the same length about 2" out of the box. Next take a scrap of ground wire "approx 12 inches or longer" and wire nut it in with the wires coming out of the box. Once this is done neatly fold the wire nut and the wires back into the box.
Next I take the set "black and white" that I know is my LINE "power coming from the panel" and gently twist them up to mark them as different than the others.
At this point you are ready to fold and cut all the wires to final length. I fold them all to the bottom and to the back as neatly as possible. Then I place my hand on them to measure, all you need is one hand length coming out of the box.
Next strip all the wires about 3/4" long, but I leave some of the wrap on the LINE wire.
You are now ready to connect the wires to the GFCI. Remember it is important to keep your LINE and LOAD separate and hook them where they are labeled to go. One other way to know where where the power and neutral wire go's is that the silver screw is the neutral and the gold is the power. Notice no visible copper wire is showing, this is what you want. Exposed can short out.
Finally you can neatly as possible fold the wire back into the box thus pushing the GFCI into the box as well. make sure your bare ground wire isn't touching any of the white or black screws or bare copper.
OK now screw in the GFCI and put the plate on and installation is complete.
Next I am going to show you how to install a 2 gang or quad outlet. Basically it is 4 spots to plug into in one box. You will need a 2 gang box for this. In my application I have a wire in and a wire out to the next outlet. Now remember these are all on the LOAD side of the GFCI and are protected.
One major difference in this application is you will need two ground wires, one for each outlet. In this pic I have the two ground pigtails and I have take one set of black and white wires and trimmed them to hand length. The second set of black and white wires I leave long.
The long wires I strip at hand length and wrap it around the outlet screw. This leaves a long pigtail coming off of the screw. This pigtail later connects to the second outlet. Sort of a jumper. Notice I have my wires wrapped tightly to the screws and going clockwise so when I tighten the screw it pulls the wire under it instead of pushing it out.
Once all connections are made to the first outlet you can screw it into the box. Then you will have the single ground, one long black and one long white wire left over. Push them into the back and bottom of the box and cut them hand length.
Then connect the second outlet up and screw it into the box, add your cover plate then you should be done.
Turn your breaker back on and reset the GFCI, you should then have power to all your outlets.:smile:
If you have any questions please feel free to ask!
Ok one last final rant :sad:
You need GFCI outlets, plain and simple with no exceptions. There is a lot of debate on this. Some people say well what if you aren't home and the GFCI trips. My response to that is what if you are working on your tank with your arm in the water while standing in a puddle and the water comes in contact with the electrical outlet. Simple, the GFCI trips. Now imagine the same scenario but with no GFCI protection and lets throw in a heart condition that you didn't know about. What happens is you get shocked, the electricity takes the quickest path to ground which just happens to be through your body to the wet puddle you are standing in. The electricity flows through your body and in doing so passes through your heart causing it to cease to beat. Now what is a bigger problem, your heart beat stopping or you take doing a full on nuke caused by a tripped GFCI while you were away? I do realize I just threw a lot of what if's out there but I truly feel I don't want the chance of a what if to happen to me, do you?
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Great write up!! I was elbows deep in the frag tank last month and faster than you could blink, I felt the full 120v short on my arms and heard the click of the GFCI. Such a nice sound!!
Cheers! Mark
Cheers! Mark
Didn’t read the whole thread but wanted to add they do make gfci circuit breakers more expensive then just a gcfi outlet but will protect the whole circuit not just the out let you install. I have then for anything that goes outside because I have had many gfci outlets fail from moisture. So instead breaker is protected in fuse panel and 3$ outlet gets moist instead
I went to replace one of my outlets in my home office and when I opened it up (after breaker was off) and I found this. 2 wires coming into th box with white, black, red, ground. And the tab has been removed which I think would make this a switched receptacle except we've lived in the house for ~4 years and this outlet is not tied to any switch, both outlets have always been on. The only 2 switches in the room are for the light and ceiling fan. Can I just remove the red wire from the wirenut to the receptacle, leave the wirenut on the pair of red wires coming in and wire the outlet with just the black, white and ground?
Thanks for any info
I realize this is very old now but I finally figured out what was going on with that outlet. So that outlet has never switched while we've owned the house but what I did find is that red wire to the outlet works with a switch by our front door to control a yard light. We never use that yard light so I probably didn't notice for a year or more after I set up the tank that the light didn't work. Then I just figured it was some other wiring issue and I didn't concern myself much with it and we continued not using that light. Eventually I took down that tank and had replaced the outlets again (different color) and got to thinking about that outlet again and just today finally I added the red wire back and now the outside light works. Not sure if it's supposed to be setup that way but that's what happening. The outlet remains on no matter the position of the switch in a completely different room but once that wire is reconnected the outside light turns on and off by flipping the switch in the other room again.
Inigo Montoya
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This is a phenomenal thread! Would like to just add that there has long been conversations occurring in electrical safety and regulatory circles about the lifespan of GFCIs. The electronics in them tend to become less reliable over time, particularly when exposed to transient voltages (essentially momentarily high voltage swings that frequently occur in ares prone to lightning, power outages, industrial parks, etc.) and moisture. This tends to be a failure not in the mechanical operation (test/reset capabilities), but in the trip parameter falling out of spec.
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