RabidDragon
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its not the result values, its the change made in a single day.... again, if those test results were accurate
pH of 7.6 is also a significant concern. The average pH is low in general.
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pH of 7.6 is also a significant concern. The average pH is low in general.
Nopox takes some time but will work. Water changes are good for nitrates, don’t do much for po4.
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I have an oversized skimmer and a co2 scrubber attached to my skimmer, its had no affect on PH. Its winter here in Minnesota so I can't do an airline outside but I did buy a co2 monitor and the house is at 500 to 1000 ppm depending on how long we are in the room with the tank. The outside air when I put the monitor outside was at 400 ppm.
As for the jump in cal and mag the output from my dosing pump got clogged, its still definitely too high and have been backing off on the All For Reef. Below is more data, I slacked off on maintenance in 2022 in Dec of 2023 I started to pick it back up, its looking like all the large swings is killing the hammer. What I cant understand is all the other corals are growing like weeds but yet the hammers are dropping like fly's. The Tank is getting quite old, fish and corals are now 15 years old do corals die of old age?
As for the jump in cal and mag the output from my dosing pump got clogged, its still definitely too high and have been backing off on the All For Reef. Below is more data, I slacked off on maintenance in 2022 in Dec of 2023 I started to pick it back up, its looking like all the large swings is killing the hammer. What I cant understand is all the other corals are growing like weeds but yet the hammers are dropping like fly's. The Tank is getting quite old, fish and corals are now 15 years old do corals die of old age?
4/4/2021 | 11/14/2021 | 1/10/2021 | 4/15/2022 | 12/18/2023 | 12/24/2023 | 12/26/2023 | 12/28/2023 | 12/31/2023 | 1/4/2024 | 1/7/2024 | 1/10/2024 | 1/13/2024 | 1/20/2024 | 1/21/2024 | 1/26/2024 | Date |
| 7.9 | 7.8 | 8 | 7.9 | 7.9 | 7.7 | 7.8 | 7.8 | 7.8 | 7.9 | 8.8 | 7.9 | 7.8 | 7.6 | 7.9 | 7.9 | PH |
| 7.8 | 6.3 | 6.9 | 6.7 | 7.3 | 8 | 7.9 | N/A | N/A | 7.6 | N/A | 7 | 7.4 | 6.2 | 7 | DKH | |
| 314 | 411 | 385 | 317 | 392 | 472 | 434 | N/A | 490 | 460 | N/A | 500 | 500 | 396 | 508 | Calcium | |
| 1280 | 1200 | 1200 | 1500 | 1545 | 1550 | N/A | N/A | 1540 | N/A | 1540 | 1520 | 1150 | 1560 | Magnesium | ||
| 1.024 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.024 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | Salinity |
| 0.06 | 0.05 | 0.04 | 0.21 | 0.83 | 0.85 | 0.87 | 0.75 | 0.73 | 0.63 | 0.62 | 0.66 | 0.61 | 0.7 | 0.61 | 0.58 | Phosphate |
| 0.85 | 18.5 | 12 | 3.48 | 38.2 | 30.2 | 33.1 | 28.8 | 24.2 | 24.1 | 22.6 | 26 | 22.4 | 25.1 | 21.4 | 19.7 | Nitrate |
| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Nitrite | |
| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Ammonia | |
| 78.8 | 79.3 | 79.2 | 79.2 | 75 | 75.2 | 75.8 | 74.9 | 74.5 | 74.8 | 75.7 | 74.6 | 77 | 77 | 77 | Temperature |
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This is my theory too.
I dosed all4Reef and Bactoblance for a while...did it every day for a few months...some corals took off, others were not happy...I was trying for SPS ans LPS...but LPS ended up not being happy. Too much calcium.
I now use All4Reef once a week and use Red Sea Trace Colors...Torches, hammers very happy and aside of Anacropora , I'm not doing anymore sticks, which in happy with.
Torches/hammers like more nutrients in the water, lower to medium light and flow,and don't require tons of calcium or additives like All4Reef.
I have an 8 head green hammer, 1 2 head bicolor, 1 green eggs and hammer, 1 single head bicolor, 1 dragon Soul Torch and 1 green tip Torch...they and entire tank are doing great.
.40GB 2 years old.
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I have found that larger hammers and frogspawns tend to be a LOT more sensitive to fluctuations than smaller ones. I have a show size frogspawn that tells me whenever there's anything even slightly different about my tank. My other hammers (I have a couple of branching hammers that have 7 and 12 heads each and some others that range in 2-6) and some smaller wall frogspawns and hammers that don't skip a beat. Yours look very mature so maybe that's part of it.I have an oversized skimmer and a co2 scrubber attached to my skimmer, its had no affect on PH. Its winter here in Minnesota so I can't do an airline outside but I did buy a co2 monitor and the house is at 500 to 1000 ppm depending on how long we are in the room with the tank. The outside air when I put the monitor outside was at 400 ppm.
As for the jump in cal and mag the output from my dosing pump got clogged, its still definitely too high and have been backing off on the All For Reef. Below is more data, I slacked off on maintenance in 2022 in Dec of 2023 I started to pick it back up, its looking like all the large swings is killing the hammer. What I cant understand is all the other corals are growing like weeds but yet the hammers are dropping like fly's. The Tank is getting quite old, fish and corals are now 15 years old do corals die of old age?
Date 7.9 7.8 8 7.9 7.9 7.7 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.9 8.8 7.9 7.8 7.6 7.9 7.9 PH 7.8 6.3 6.9 6.7 7.3 8 7.9 N/A N/A 7.6 N/A 7 7.4 6.2 7 DKH 314 411 385 317 392 472 434 N/A 490 460 N/A 500 500 396 508 Calcium 1280 1200 1200 1500 1545 1550 N/A N/A 1540 N/A 1540 1520 1150 1560 Magnesium 1.024 1.025 1.025 1.024 1.025 1.025 1.025 1.025 1.025 1.025 1.025 1.025 1.025 1.025 1.025 1.025 Salinity 0.06 0.05 0.04 0.21 0.83 0.85 0.87 0.75 0.73 0.63 0.62 0.66 0.61 0.7 0.61 0.58 Phosphate 0.85 18.5 12 3.48 38.2 30.2 33.1 28.8 24.2 24.1 22.6 26 22.4 25.1 21.4 19.7 Nitrate 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Nitrite 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Ammonia 78.8 79.3 79.2 79.2 75 75.2 75.8 74.9 74.5 74.8 75.7 74.6 77 77 77 Temperature
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Wow post some pictures. You might be right I dose AFR 12 times a day for a total of 8.4 ml and 1. ml of NO3
o4. I too am trying some sticks with good results other than the hammer heads. Maybe a mixed reef is just too difficult just cant keep everyone happy.
Ran tests again this morning PH and DKH still low, always been low but also lights are not on yet. I think I defiantly need to run some GFO though and will do that today ill just put it in a tight media bag on top of the return pump, don't feel like setting up the reactor at this point yet.
I've got cheto in my quarantine tank 2 months fishless going to wait one more month before I bring it into my display don't want Ick. I'm going to go back to cheto and stop the No3
o4| NO3O4-X .6ml | ||||||||
| AFR 10 ml | Post WC | Post WC | Pre WC | |||||
1/4/2024 | 1/7/2024 | 1/10/2024 | 1/13/2024 | 1/20/2024 | 1/21/2024 | 1/26/2024 | 2/2/2024 | Date |
| 7.9 | 8.8 | 7.9 | 7.8 | 7.6 | 7.9 | 7.9 | 7.7 | PH |
| 7.6 | N/A | 7 | 7.4 | 6.2 | 7 | 6.2 | DKH | |
| 460 | N/A | 500 | 500 | 396 | 508 | 423 | Calcium | |
| 1540 | N/A | 1540 | 1520 | 1150 | 1560 | 1450 | Magnesium | |
| 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | 1.025 | Salinity |
| 0.63 | 0.62 | 0.66 | 0.61 | 0.7 | 0.61 | 0.58 | 0.76 | Phosphate |
| 24.1 | 22.6 | 26 | 22.4 | 25.1 | 21.4 | 19.7 | 17.6 | Nitrate |
| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Nitrite | |
| 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Ammonia | |
| 74.8 | 75.7 | 74.6 | 77 | 77 | 77 | Temperature |
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