Dynos?

[Bcook1016]

Is this dynos or something else I cleaned the sand bed and the rocks from a huge agar bloom and now it’s doing this a few days later I’m getting a uv sterilizer in two days and I’m trying to get rid of it for my nem tank?

 

[BristleWormHater]

Looks more like diatoms to me, a conch snail will clean that right up.

 

[Bcook1016]

Looks more like diatoms to me, a conch snail will clean that right up.

Should I get one or two for extra cleanage?

 

[Bcook1016]

Should I get one or two for extra cleanage?

It also gets to be kind of like slimy hair algae with a bright orange tint

 

[vetteguy53081]

Is this dynos or something else I cleaned the sand bed and the rocks from a huge agar bloom and now it’s doing this a few days later I’m getting a uv sterilizer in two days and I’m trying to get rid of it for my nem tank?

Yes, does appear to be dinoflagellates. Its biological deficiencies that cause the dino structure and its important though to identify the type of dino for most effective battle.
No light is first key followed by the addition of bacteria to overcome the bad bacteria allowing them to thrive
Prepare by starting by blowing this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles. Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10% IF you have light dependant corals such as SPS) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights which works as an oxidizer. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off. During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as micro bacter 7 or XLM) per 10 gallons. Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED AMINO OR ADD NOPOX which is food for dinos, however you can feed coral, food which will help no3 and po4 to increase. If increasing nutrients, try to keep no3 to about 5 until you are done battling these cells.
Doing a daily siphoning will help greatly But . . . . . Siphoning will reduce nutrients , so siphon the water into/through a filter sock and save the water and return it back to tank. Obviously clean the filter sock each time.
You can feed fish as normal and if doing blackout, ambient light in room will work for them

 

[AAAReefing]

Is this dynos or something else I cleaned the sand bed and the rocks from a huge agar bloom and now it’s doing this a few days later I’m getting a uv sterilizer in two days and I’m trying to get rid of it for my nem tank?

Could be either, but could you send parameters? Also what did you do when you cleaned out the algae, and you use distilled or rodi water for top offs and stuff right?

 

[BristleWormHater]

Looks more like diatoms to me, a conch snail will clean that right up.

I'm leaning more towards dinos now based off others' inputs. First you need to ID the type of dinos, some can be solved by just raising nutrients, while some are more difficult. A microscope pic is the best way to Id but there are other methods.
I'll start up some questions
Do they "disappear" at night or not?
Do they have slimy stalks with bubbles coming from them?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Disappearing at night does not distinguish if dino as diatoms and cyano, all photosynthetic will disappear at night. Focus on the cells and not raising nutrients at this time as automatically we assume this is the cause but by the time you see zero numbers, its because the dino has consumed the po4 and no3 and are multiplying and in turn many dose no3 and po4 to bring numbers up not realizing they are feeding these flagellates even more.

 

[Bcook1016]

Yes, does appear to be dinoflagellates. Its biological deficiencies that cause the dino structure and its important though to identify the type of dino for most effective battle.
No light is first key followed by the addition of bacteria to overcome the bad bacteria allowing them to thrive
Prepare by starting by blowing this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles. Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10% IF you have light dependant corals such as SPS) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights which works as an oxidizer. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off. During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as micro bacter 7 or XLM) per 10 gallons. Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED AMINO OR ADD NOPOX which is food for dinos, however you can feed coral, food which will help no3 and po4 to increase. If increasing nutrients, try to keep no3 to about 5 until you are done battling these cells.
Doing a daily siphoning will help greatly But . . . . . Siphoning will reduce nutrients , so siphon the water into/through a filter sock and save the water and return it back to tank. Obviously clean the filter sock each time.
You can feed fish as normal and if doing blackout, ambient light in room will work for them

Okay it’s the coral fish 12g nano cube it’s about 12 gallons and what about the anemone I just got him today and he’s still trying tk find his place, is it still okay if I turn all the lights off and just keep syphoning and adding the micro bacter 7 which I need to get but I also have a uv sterilizer on the way won’t that make it all mostly go away?

 

[Bcook1016]

Could be either, but could you send parameters? Also what did you do when you cleaned out the algae, and you use distilled or rodi water for top offs and stuff right?

I use rodi water for my top off and I haven’t read parameters lately but nitrates always stay around 6 and alk is always at 9.0 ppm after a water change so it’s around there

 

[vetteguy53081]

Okay it’s the coral fish 12g nano cube it’s about 12 gallons and what about the anemone I just got him today and he’s still trying tk find his place, is it still okay if I turn all the lights off and just keep syphoning and adding the micro bacter 7 which I need to get but I also have a uv sterilizer on the way won’t that make it all mostly go away?

As for lights out and anemone, its bad timing. Anemone needs light as it will shrivel up in the dark

 

[Bcook1016]

I'm leaning more towards dinos now based off others' inputs. First you need to ID the type of dinos, some can be solved by just raising nutrients, while some are more difficult. A microscope pic is the best way to Id but there are other methods.
I'll start up some questions
Do they "disappear" at night or not?
Do they have slimy stalks with bubbles coming from them?

Does like all the algae disappear or the bubbles which am I looking for but they do have like hair algae coming from the sand with bubbles at the top of them and I used to have so many in the beginning

 

[AAAReefing]

I use rodi water for my top off and I haven’t read parameters lately but nitrates always stay around 6 and alk is always at 9.0 ppm after a water change so it’s around there

What did you do when you got rid of the algae earlier? I’m suspecting that that might’ve thrown off parameters a bit and caused some instability which then caused the Dinos

 

[Bcook1016]

What did you do when you got rid of the algae earlier? I’m suspecting that that might’ve thrown off parameters a bit and caused some instability which then caused the Dinos

That most likely did it I mixed up the sand a good bit which may have release some nitrates and I brushed all the hair algae off the rocks and got mainly all of it out of the tank and scraped the glass and cleaned the filter sock and also changed out my carbon bag

 

[AAAReefing]

That most likely did it I mixed up the sand a good bit which may have release some nitrates and I brushed all the hair algae off the rocks and got mainly all of it out of the tank and scraped the glass and cleaned the filter sock and also changed out my carbon bag

Yeah that might’ve been it, when you scraped the rocks off did you take the rockwork out of water? Sorry for so many questions lol

 

[Bcook1016]

Yeah that might’ve been it, when you scraped the rocks off did you take the rockwork out of water? Sorry for so many questions lol

I took one big rock out completely and I took a small one out and peroxide dipped the whole thing and killed all the algae and put it back in later on and it’s all good man I’ve been dealing with these algae problems for almost a. Year

 

[vetteguy53081]

What did you do when you got rid of the algae earlier? I’m suspecting that that might’ve thrown off parameters a bit and caused some instability which then caused the Dinos

Good chance yes

 

[AAAReefing]

I took one big rock out completely and I took a small one out and peroxide dipped the whole thing and killed all the algae and put it back in later on and it’s all good man I’ve been dealing with these algae problems for almost a. Year

Yeah I’m thinking that the rock being out of the tank and the peroxide dip killed off beneficial bacteria that was growing on the rock and keeping your nutrients stable. I get you with the hair algae too it’s a PITA lol. This leads me to suspect it’s probably Dino’s and for that I would try 4 things. Number one is siphoning them out using water changes, number two is using the UV sterilizer, number 3 is adding some bacteria like micro bacter 7, and number 4 which is pretty unheard of is adding in silicates to induce a diatom bloom. The reason it can help is because the diatoms can compete with the Dinos, and are easily manipulated and die off once you stop dosing silicates. I heard some good things about raising tank temperature too but not sure how the nem would do with that. Good luck! PS, check if all the brown stuff disappears at night like Bristlewormhater suggested. If it doesn’t, the UV sterilizer won’t work properly.

 

[AAAReefing]

Okay it’s the coral fish 12g nano cube it’s about 12 gallons and what about the anemone I just got him today and he’s still trying tk find his place, is it still okay if I turn all the lights off and just keep syphoning and adding the micro bacter 7 which I need to get but I also have a uv sterilizer on the way won’t that make it all mostly go away?

Honestly I would try to return the anemone if you can, I don’t think he’ll be able to bear instability too well and it might die

 

[Bcook1016]

Yeah I’m thinking that the rock being out of the tank and the peroxide dip killed off beneficial bacteria that was growing on the rock and keeping your nutrients stable. I get you with the hair algae too it’s a PITA lol. This leads me to suspect it’s probably Dino’s and for that I would try 4 things. Number one is siphoning them out using water changes, number two is using the UV sterilizer, number 3 is adding some bacteria like micro bacter 7, and number 4 which is pretty unheard of is adding in silicates to induce a diatom bloom. The reason it can help is because the diatoms can compete with the Dinos, and are easily manipulated and die off once you stop dosing silicates. I heard some good things about raising tank temperature too but not sure how the nem would do with that. Good luck! PS, check if all the brown stuff disappears at night like Bristlewormhater suggested. If it doesn’t, the UV sterilizer won’t work properly.

Okay I’ll do the siphoning with water changes and dosing microbacter 7 and stay consistent with that and also add the uv sterilizer and I’m hoping that will get rid of it all how long do you think it’ll take for it all to go away