DSR USA Q&A

[DSR USA]

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Since its release in 2012, the DSR method has gained a large following from aquarists all throughout Europe. With the method obtaining a great deal of success, the awaited 4-Part EZ-DSR line has finally made its way to the USA!

Given that DSR is new to the US, we are certain there are many questions regarding the method.⁣ ⁣
Do you have any questions about the DSR method? Lets hear them!

You can find the full EZ-DSR product line here: https://deltecdirectusa.com/product-category/dsr-additives/

 

[Daniel@R2R]

I'm very excited to see this product making its way to the US!!

 

[swiss1939]

I'm curious where one could buy the slotted tube, cotton mesh and grate cover for the cotton mesh to make a power filter for this method? I'm assuming i can just make my own slotted tube from pvc at home Depot but am interested in the cotton and grated cover he uses in his video.

Thinking of trying this method in my new tank, starting first with power filter then just the ez method.

 

[BeltedCoyote]

Yup I’m excited. DSR sounds much more like what I’ve been looking for compared to Triton and Zeovit (not knocking them, this just interests me more)

I’m also curious about the power filter. If I understand the concept correctly, I could use the vectra I have on its way as the power filter?

 

[Daniel@R2R]

Where is the best concise explanation of DSR? I think a DSR for Dummies kind of overview would be helpful for people looking into the system.

 

[BeltedCoyote]

Where is the best concise explanation of DSR? I think a DSR for Dummies kind of overview would be helpful for people looking into the system.

Excellent idea. I think I sort of fall in the category. That said I’m still going to read through that whole behemoth lol

 

[swiss1939]

Agree. Their European forum is decent but it would make sense to start building an English centric faq on here.

@glennf @Deltec USA I am curious about the process of swapping from an already running system to change it over to dsr and back? Specifically this got me curious how the carbon dosing to remove nitrate and phosphate affects the nitrifying bacteria?

Is swapping to dsr as simple as adding power filter then running the initial tests day 1, day 6, day 14 and dosing on each of those based on the test results entered into the calculator? Then maintaining a regular test/dosing schedule?

What happens to the nitrifying bacteria when you have a fully stocked tank both coral and fish and you decide to stop dsr? Does the tank crash because the nitrifying bacteria is not built up enough to handle the bio load in it's own?

Also, how does the ez compare to the full dsr method in terms of what elements are maintained in the ez vs full? I realize the ez has 4 products, but do some of those products ballpark maintain multiple elements? Ie.. trace elements mixture doses all the ones from the full system in a ez solution that you've worked out a general mixture that can be assumed to be close to correct dosing all the elements by testing one or two elements in the ez system? So you still get a full dosing, just in an ez format that gets you in the ballpark through educated guesses on a single trace element solution?

This would still be a "full" dsr system but just in an ez format because it's not as granular control over trace elements because you are trusting the trace elements cocktail to get you close enough.

 

[Isabel’s Hobby]

What do you do if your iodine is high and yet that is one of the elements in the cocktail ?

 

[galantra]

Lot of good questions and just like many it’s the switching over into this system and the concern of the possible algae bloom and correction of this.
My question iswhat happen if someone system is a minimalist type or overstock type? Would this not work?
Also the full system offers a salt mix does this affect the quality of the brand salt with the EZ system?
People with high po4 or nitrates or even algae outbreak that they are trying to resolve must they correct before implementing the system?

 

[KenO]

Is someone going to answer the questions posted in this thread?

 

[glennf]

I'm curious where one could buy the slotted tube, cotton mesh and grate cover for the cotton mesh to make a power filter for this method? I'm assuming i can just make my own slotted tube from pvc at home Depot but am interested in the cotton and grated cover he uses in his video.

Thinking of trying this method in my new tank, starting first with power filter then just the ez method.

Make one by drilling 8-10mm holes is a pipe or source locally.

DIY

These set are available in europe
Try local sources

These are assembled PF's.

Look for something similar like this.

 

[glennf]

Yup I’m excited. DSR sounds much more like what I’ve been looking for compared to Triton and Zeovit (not knocking them, this just interests me more)

I’m also curious about the power filter. If I understand the concept correctly, I could use the vectra I have on its way as the power filter?

Read more about the powerfilter is here
http://dsrreefing.com/powerfilter/

DSRpowerfilter
Over the years, various types of mechanical filtering have been tested:
filterwool in the sump
filterwool in a separate compartments filterwool wrapped on flow pumps
sponge/filterwool combinations from coarse to fine compartments
filterbags with or without filterwool.
automated fleece filters. Everything has been removed and the basic powerfilter still works best.
A strong pump with a perforated spool and 3 layers of cotton wool, you do not need more.
Mounting the PF in the display is more efficient, but placing is in the sump will do just fine for most cases.
This is an essential part to get the most out of the DSR system. Deviations on this part will also produce deviating results.

What is a vectra? .
Show a picture and specs

 

[BeltedCoyote]

Read more about the powerfilter is here
http://dsrreefing.com/powerfilter/

DSRpowerfilter
Over the years, various types of mechanical filtering have been tested:
filterwool in the sump
filterwool in a separate compartments filterwool wrapped on flow pumps
sponge/filterwool combinations from coarse to fine compartments
filterbags with or without filterwool.
automated fleece filters. Everything has been removed and the basic powerfilter still works best.
A strong pump with a perforated spool and 3 layers of cotton wool, you do not need more.
Mounting the PF in the display is more efficient, but placing is in the sump will do just fine for most cases.
This is an essential part to get the most out of the DSR system. Deviations on this part will also produce deviating results.

What is a vectra? .
Show a picture and specs

Thanks Glenn! I’ll give it a read through

 

[glennf]

Yup I’m excited. DSR sounds much more like what I’ve been looking for compared to Triton and Zeovit (not knocking them, this just interests me more)

I’m also curious about the power filter. If I understand the concept correctly, I could use the vectra I have on its way as the power filter?

There are many systems. You just need to find the one that suits your need the best.
DSR is the closest to the reefers, because is designed by a active/practising reefer with an open mind to solve existing real live problems.
We don't hide problems, we discuss them and try to solve them.


What is a vectra ? What specs? Picture?

 

[glennf]

Where is the best concise explanation of DSR? I think a DSR for Dummies kind of overview would be helpful for people looking into the system.

The DSR website and fb is where to find the latest developments.

This is for the EZ system: http://www.DSRreefing.com/ez-dsr

This is the fullDSR startup procedure
http://www.DSRreefing.com/fulldsr

This is the Faq: http://www.DSRreefing.com/faq

Here are the calculators:

DSRcalculator

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dsrreefing.com

 

[BeltedCoyote]

Thanks the one with orange was sold as a black clownfish but I don't think it is.

There are many systems. You just need to find the one that suits your need the best.
DSR is the closest to the reefers, because is designed by a active/practising reefer with an open mind to solve existing real live problems.
We don't hide problems, we discuss them and try to solve them.


What is a vectra ? What specs? Picture?

Ah sorry, just saw your question. Is a return pump made by ecotech marine. After looking at the link you provided I believe it will work. So thanks again for providing it. Unfortunately (for my wallet), I’ve been given the green light to upgrade tanks so I’ll be using a different return pump (one suited for a 240g+ system). That said I’m sure I’ll still be able to set up a power filter

 

[glennf]

Excellent idea. I think I sort of fall in the category. That said I’m still going to read through that whole behemoth lol

All question have been ask and answered before.
You just need to look it up or ask, than we will direct you to the right answers. In the meanwhile you get to learn a lot by just reading through similar cases.

 

[glennf]

Ah sorry, just saw your question. Is a return pump made by ecotech marine. After looking at the link you provided I believe it will work. So thanks again for providing it. Unfortunately (for my wallet), I’ve been given the green light to upgrade tanks so I’ll be using a different return pump (one suited for a 240g+ system). That said I’m sure I’ll still be able to set up a power filter

In most case the PF on the MRP wil do just fine.
But in a poluted system placing the PF in the display does miracles.

Just as a reminder to the readers:
DSRpowerfilter
Over the years, various types of mechanical filtering have been tested:
filterwool in the sump
filterwool in a separate compartments filterwool wrapped on flow pumps
sponge/filterwool combinations from coarse to fine compartments
filterbags with or without filterwool.
automated fleece filters. Everything has been removed and the basic powerfilter still works best.
A strong pump with a perforated spool and 3 layers of cotton wool, you do not need more.
Mounting the PF in the display is more efficient, but placing is in the sump will do just fine for most cases.
This is an essential part to get the most out of the DSR system. Deviations on this part will also produce deviating results.

 

[BeltedCoyote]

All question have been ask and answered befor.
You just need to look it up or ask than we will direct you to the right answers. In the meanwhile you get to learn a lot by just reading through similar cases.

One does have to wonder if there truly are any original ideas anymore, but that’s a question for philosophers.

I got through the entire thread and feel I’ve got a pretty good understanding of things. I’m grateful for your EZ line...I am not even close to the level of chemist I would trust with the original method.

any questions I have now are just general aquaria questions. (Good dosing pumps, wiring it to a controller, etc).

 

[glennf]

Agree. Their European forum is decent but it would make sense to start building an English centric faq on here.

We'll try to do so.
Most faq are general,so that should be easy enough to start with.
In my experience every country has it's specific questions. So depending on the questions we will expand these faq.