Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?

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To summarize it.. what was your method to defeating this? Your input is appreciated
1) Raise nutrients to at least 10/.1 NO3/PO4. Neonitro and Neophos are good bottled versions. If larger system you can DIY mix with Sodium Nitrate and REAL Trisodium Phosphate (not TSP)
2) Temporary install of UV. To/From the display itself. 1 watt per 3 gallons. Super slow flow through it. Maximize contact.
3) A blackout may help accelerate
4) Run some GAC for toxins
5) Manual removal & disturb
6) No amino acid dosing
 

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I just beat a Dino bloom that came after scrubbing my live rock with peroxide. I think I killed off all bacteria and algae therefore the Dino's went nuts. I overfed, turned my skimmer off and got my nutes up while keeping my whites off and blues low. Dosed a bottle of nitrifying bacteria and kept flow up high. Also added a nice bit of healthy Caulerpa. I always run activated carbon in my HOB filter so that was going entire time as well. From bloom to clear was 14 days.
Just thought this info might help someone out there.
 

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1) Raise nutrients to at least 10/.1 NO3/PO4. Neonitro and Neophos are good bottled versions. If larger system you can DIY mix with Sodium Nitrate and REAL Trisodium Phosphate (not TSP)
2) Temporary install of UV. To/From the display itself. 1 watt per 3 gallons. Super slow flow through it. Maximize contact.
3) A blackout may help accelerate
4) Run some GAC for toxins
5) Manual removal & disturb
6) No amino acid dosing
Even with lights off this type of Dino sticks to the sand correct? It isn’t the floating type
 

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Even with lights off this type of Dino sticks to the sand correct? It isn’t the floating type
It does go into the water to a much lesser extent than ostreopsis. The lights help with this, many cells will still cling to the sand but uv does help and the lights out helps push as many cells as possible to look for new territory.
 

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It does go into the water to a much lesser extent than ostreopsis. The lights help with this, many cells will still cling to the sand but uv does help and the lights out helps push as many cells as possible to look for new territory.
It appears that when i raised my white lights from 0% to 10% they started to come back.

I was nearly almost ridding of them is what i thought. It happens to be that every time i try and and throw in white light back in the picture i get the outbreak.
 

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It appears that when i raised my white lights from 0% to 10% they started to come back.
Can you post a pic of your microscope view. I see where you said you ID'd them, but I didn't see a picture.
 

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I've had good luck just holding my iPhone up to the eye piece.
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That was the best I could do with the microscope and my iPhone.

Anyone have any idea what Dino that is?

It has a circular body
 

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Here are some better shots. This Dino is above my sand bed and is sticky with bubbles. Can any reefers ID it
 

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I believe I have osteoporosis and cyanobacteria in a 310 gallon bare bottom tank. Set up with 120 lbs life rock and about 80 lbs live rock from a 180 gallon I upgraded from about 3 months ago.

Phosphorus and nitrate were testing zero. I turned 5 of the 6 hydra 64’s off and lowered blues to 45%. Turned skimmer off for 10 hours overnight and added 30 ml of microbacter 7. Also turned up temp to 82.

Today I tested at phosphorus 10 (Hannah) and nitrate at .5 (Salifert).

I read that UV sterilizer is the solution, but at almost $750 for a 57 to 80 watt I need to try other options first... have about 300 gallon water volumes with sump.

I have a Bashsea 8-30 bio reactor that got clogged and stopped working not long before the outbreak.

Would putting the bio reactor back online help? Continue dosing microbacter 7? Would running a 5 micron filter inside the display and cleaning daily do anything? Dosing hydrogen peroxide at 3 ml to 10 gallon ration?
 

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So bought a used tank about 6 weeks ago and now have dinos??

anybody know which type this is??

My game plan is to get uv sterilizer, turn white lights all off, lower blues. Either take skimmer offline or only run half day(ph isn't a problem). Should I take algae scrubber offline as well, it runs 12 hours now. No water change for a while. Any other suggestions???
Nitrates are around 1 and po4 .03. Going to try and get them up.
Anybody know what that worm looking thing is in the middle?? It's moving a million miles an hour under microscope.
Thanks
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I believe I have osteoporosis and cyanobacteria in a 310 gallon bare bottom tank. Set up with 120 lbs life rock and about 80 lbs live rock from a 180 gallon I upgraded from about 3 months ago.

Phosphorus and nitrate were testing zero. I turned 5 of the 6 hydra 64’s off and lowered blues to 45%. Turned skimmer off for 10 hours overnight and added 30 ml of microbacter 7. Also turned up temp to 82.

Today I tested at phosphorus 10 (Hannah) and nitrate at .5 (Salifert).

I read that UV sterilizer is the solution, but at almost $750 for a 57 to 80 watt I need to try other options first... have about 300 gallon water volumes with sump.

I have a Bashsea 8-30 bio reactor that got clogged and stopped working not long before the outbreak.

Would putting the bio reactor back online help? Continue dosing microbacter 7? Would running a 5 micron filter inside the display and cleaning daily do anything? Dosing hydrogen peroxide at 3 ml to 10 gallon ration?
Yes that looks like ostreopsis which are a cinch to solve for with a whopping big UV. You would need closer to 100 watts.
dosing up nitrates and PO4 will help get some competition going.
You can also clamps bunch of filter floss to the glass in high flow and high light areas. They love to attach there. Rinse each evening before lights go down.
not heard much success with 5 micron socks but can’t hurt.
 

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Well add me to the list of unfortunate souls that managed to get dino's from using Chemiclean. It's bad too, my tank has never looked so terrible and I'm now concerned for my corals. I've been dosing 10mL of NeoNitro and 8mL Phosphate for 3 days as well as MB7 and haven't made much progress. Turned off skimmer, added a bag of carbon last night and went ahead and killed my lights about halfway through the day. Hasn't seemed to get better since killing the lights but hasn't gotten worse either so I guess that's a plus. I guess a microscope is next for me.

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Well add me to the list of unfortunate souls that managed to get dino's from using Chemiclean. It's bad too, my tank has never looked so terrible and I'm now concerned for my corals. I've been dosing 10mL of NeoNitro and 8mL Phosphate for 3 days as well as MB7 and haven't made much progress. Turned off skimmer, added a bag of carbon last night and went ahead and killed my lights about halfway through the day. Hasn't seemed to get better since killing the lights but hasn't gotten worse either so I guess that's a plus. I guess a microscope is next for me.

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Ohh noooo.
 
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